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1. Beaver+(OP)[view] [source] 2021-09-15 03:11:05
I don't get it, didn't anonymous start on 4chan? Why are they attacking this company which is hosting similar content? I thought anonymous used to only attack megacorps
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2. hsbaua+j3[view] [source] 2021-09-15 03:44:11
>>Beaver+(OP)
Anonymous is a collective with different motives. even if it wasn’t, anonymous was never much more than opportunistic hacks painted to look political.
3. drdeca+v7[view] [source] 2021-09-15 04:24:58
>>Beaver+(OP)
Anonymous isn’t really a single thing, is my impression. Anyone can write “-anonymous” at the end of a message.
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4. Silver+Tb[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-09-15 05:24:11
>>drdeca+v7
It's also what shows up in the "username" section of posts for everyone except admins (maybe other cases)
5. southe+To[view] [source] 2021-09-15 07:40:00
>>Beaver+(OP)
Parts of the anonymous trend started on 4chan. However not everyone involved with anonymous is/was involved with 4chan, and it was also at a time when 4chan was more of an anonymous meme board and less of a pedo/nazi aggregator.

Anonymous doesn't only attack megacorps. First because anonymous is not a group so there's no central leadership to decide who to attack. Second because they're overall involved with fighting injustices of all kinds. It's not the first nazi-friendly site to get hacked by anonymous, but to my knowledge the first nazi-friendly webhost.

Also, depending on your understanding of what a megacorp is, Epik may very well qualify.

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6. woodru+Ry[view] [source] 2021-09-15 09:19:43
>>Beaver+(OP)
One of the saddest and most effective media coups of the last decade has been the far right convincing the public that 4chan was always theirs. It started as an anonymous image board, one that an incredible number of people left when it became apparent that neo-Nazis had Poe’s Lawed themselves into the dominant user base.

> I thought anonymous used to only attack megacorps

Various individuals or groups labeling themselves “Anonymous” have operated during the Arab Spring, and after the murders of Tamir Rice and Michael Brown.

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7. h_anna+GB[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-09-15 09:47:29
>>southe+To
> and it was also at a time when 4chan was more of an anonymous meme board and less of a pedo/nazi aggregator.

I will have to disagree here. The amount of illegal pedo content has dramatically decreased over the years. You would see people spamming it all the time around ~2008-2013 in /b/, while nowadays it is much more likely that you will see such content while browsing facebook.

As for nazi content, there are a lot more things that are considered nazi these days that were common back (such as calling people slurs as a generic insult), although since around the time of gamergate the amount of unironic actual nazis skyrocketed (as part of a wider social radicalization) and they stopped being shamed as much when posting in unrelated boards.

> Also, depending on your understanding of what a megacorp is, Epik may very well qualify.

I think that this is stretching the definition. I believe that most people would consider something of the size and reach of cokecola and mcdonalds as megacorps.

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8. nextle+UB[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-09-15 09:51:42
>>woodru+Ry
They aren't that far off. 4chan was always about counter culture.
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9. Cthulh+sC[view] [source] 2021-09-15 09:56:38
>>Beaver+(OP)
Just because they're on 4chan doesn't mean they agree with it.
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10. woodru+nD[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-09-15 10:03:58
>>nextle+UB
Sure. But the site took a distinctly reactionary turn around 2010, and the community that’s on there now bears little resemblance to the one that occupied it from 2003 to 2013[1].

Put another way: it’s always been a cesspit, but it was a cesspit of a community. What passes for conversation on 4chan in 2021 appears to be neo-Nazis riling each other up.

[1]: On the bigger boards. The smaller ones are basically what they’ve always been, which lends further evidence to the point about the overwhelming majority of hate content coming from opportunistic reactionaries.

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11. nextle+dH[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-09-15 10:43:08
>>woodru+nD
As I said 4chan has always been about being counter culture. During early days 4chan was more liberal and Left leaning, then when government changed it switched. Had the Right held the office for longer 4chan would have again shifted more towards Left.

As for hacking and doxxing people you don't politically agree with just because of that, that sure wasn't the original "hacker known as 4chan" mentality. That was called "moralfagging" back in the day.

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12. Applej+mK[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-09-15 11:19:21
>>woodru+Ry
Very much this. I'm a bit surprised it took this long to see a backlash. Since /pol/, 4chan and Anonymous have spent far too much time as someone's personal army, despite that being always the disclaimer.

Scorpion and Pepe story… except strangely reversed. This would be the frog dumping the scorpion, after having been stung and used ruthlessly to serve the scorpion's selfish purposes for years. Very 4chan-like, to be able to survive a scorpion sting, but you can't poison poison, or meaningfully piss in an ocean of piss :)

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13. spywar+XR[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-09-15 12:22:24
>>h_anna+GB
> nowadays it is much more likely that you will see such content while browsing facebook.

That sounds... unlikely? Unless you have a very specific set of friends?

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14. h_anna+Cu3[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-09-16 05:05:06
>>spywar+XR
I don't have a facebook account so no.
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15. spywar+c05[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-09-16 16:43:29
>>h_anna+Cu3
then why did you say

> while nowadays it is much more likely that you will see such content while browsing facebook.

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16. h_anna+9W6[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-09-17 05:14:45
>>spywar+c05
Because it's true. You can browse facebook without an account.
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