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> Just read through HN any day to see posts

Only an incredibly tiny slice of professional engineers are on HN, even smaller slice of that actually post anything. HN is not representative of anything.

>>pm90+(OP)
For most of my 40 year career as a programmer HN didn’t exist, but the complaints about management and business priorities did. And so did those stereotypical developers who want to be left alone to play with shiny things.

You can find the attitude I described all over the place, not just HN.

When I get involved in a failed or failing project the developers almost always blame management, schedules, budgets, marketing priorities. They almost never reflect on the time they’ve wasted or how they don’t really understand the goals or users for the software they are responsible for.

>>gregjo+Z
> They almost never reflect on the time they’ve wasted or how they don’t really understand the goals or users for the software they are responsible for.

I think the quoted statement tends to be a systematic issue on struggling projects that describes the decision makers, regardless of role.

I'm not sure how anybody can expect other outcomes than a few lucky successes and a lot of failures when understanding why you are building something seems to be undervalued by management, technical or other.