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Many years ago I tied my shoes with something called Perry's Perpectual knot[1][2], and then haven't had to retie my shoes since.

At worst the knot will get a bit loose from time to time (like maybe once a year), and then it takes a few seconds to tighten it again.

I expect my shoes will fall apart (they're already pretty old) before this knot unties.

[1] - https://web.archive.org/web/20051203081429/http://web.ukonli...

[2] - http://i.imgur.com/mzyXuet.png

>>pmoria+(OP)
Very cool, shocking that this may be the only mention of it on the internet because Google shows 0 search results for it.

>>pmoria+(OP)
You can also tie your laces with a reef knot which has no loops to catch on anything and untie.

If you're wearing hiking boots, you can go once around the back to reduce the lace lengths and then make the knot.

>>dwd+83
The advantage of Perry's Perpetual is that it's easily adjustable, so you can get the perfect tightness (which is critical for me to get in and out of my shoes without needing to untie the knot).

>>dwd+83
I’ve been using reef knot with extra turns (looks like the so called “surgeons” knot, but the top part also has extra turns), and can second the suggestion. it never has loosened or caught on something. also, because of extra turns, it never jams and can be easily untied even with one hand. just have to use shorter laces.

>>pmoria+(OP)
I can't quite parse the imgur instructions; in the first image, the pink lace enters from the left of the image; next image it enters from the right, then from the left again. And the images on the archive aren't loading for me :( Really want to try this one out - any other references?

>>pmoria+(OP)
Ian's secure knot (https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm) has been my go-to for similar purposes, it holds up even to running and other exercise quite well though I re-tie those each time because I like them too tight to slip off. But for daily shoes (which I leave looser and just slip on and off) I've now gone through 3 or 4 pairs in the last 10 years and the shoes or laces always break before the knot comes undone.

Super easy to untie, as well, if needed.

>>pmoria+(OP)
The links to the images in [1] are broken. Is there any alternative link to the instructions?

>>pmoria+(OP)
What's the point of having laces if you leave them tied up all the time? Aren't the shoes too loose? Why don't you wear loafers instead?

>>globul+ct
you need the laces to adjust the fit

loafers sole isn't usually strong enough for outdoor use. old sneakers with the rear part bent in and laces tightened enough to slip in with ease while not falling out are great for quick trips like to take out the trash or walk the dog, so you don't wear and tear your good shoes.

>>cornel+ff
+1. I retie my shoes every time I wear them because I prefer them quite tight, but Ian's secure knot almost never comes untied. I usually only retie while wearing if I didn't tie my shoes tight enough in the first place.

Also on my Solovair boots, I used quick tight lacing [0], which gives you the outer "straight lacing" appearance but also allows you to make the boots very tight without spending 5 minutes to tie them. The main issue with this technique is that the laces can shift, but I marked the center of the laces with a Sharpie to serve as a guide.

[0] https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/quicktightlacing.htm

>>askvic+Je
I believe the 3rd image is wrong in that the pink should always stay above the green. The basic idea is you take two loops and then wrap the loose end of the lace around the middle 4 strands twice (or three times) and then finish by putting the loose end between the 4 strands in the middle (pink pair on above, green pair below) and then pull/dress it tight. It helps using the instructions from the site with the broken links to interpret the imgur images:

1. Pick up the laces. 2. Cross the laces over like this... (but don't have them looping into each other like in the picture) 3. and back, leaving loops either side 4. Take the left lace underneath... 5. then back over the top... 6. and wrap round underneath again... 7. and back over the top again. 8. Now similarly with the other lace... 9. underneath, but the other way... 10. then wrapping round as before. 11. Push the lace through the four centre strands. 12. And the same with the other. 13. Then tighten the knot up. 14. Finally, here is an alternate one with an extra turn (at step 10.5).

This is a great shoelace knot as it loosens and cinches tight without untying.

>>oldgra+Es
The images that are missing from [1] are in [2]

>>cornel+ff
Before I switched to Perry's Perpetual knot, I liked using the Turquoise Turtle Shoelace Knot.[1]

It's almost exactly like the "standard" shoelace knot I've used most of my life, but with just an extra tuck, and it virtually never unintentionally gets untied. It's fast, easy to put on and easy to take off. Highly recommended.

[1] - http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/turquoiseturtleknot.htm

>>cornel+ff
I made the switch 3 months ago and went from my laces coming undone around once per km or two to once in 3 months, and that was on purpose to tighten it like you say. I wish they'd taught me this in kindergarten! A lifetime of potential trips averted.