zlacker

Ian Knot (2003)

submitted by apsec1+(OP) on 2021-07-04 07:55:38 | 151 points 66 comments
[view article] [source] [go to bottom]

NOTE: showing posts with links only show all posts
5. techra+6E1[view] [source] 2021-07-05 03:13:07
>>apsec1+(OP)
Previous related discussions:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16454796

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26867300

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24091391

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22053698

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21153182

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15282752

10. pmoria+bF1[view] [source] 2021-07-05 03:27:12
>>apsec1+(OP)
Many years ago I tied my shoes with something called Perry's Perpectual knot[1][2], and then haven't had to retie my shoes since.

At worst the knot will get a bit loose from time to time (like maybe once a year), and then it takes a few seconds to tighten it again.

I expect my shoes will fall apart (they're already pretty old) before this knot unties.

[1] - https://web.archive.org/web/20051203081429/http://web.ukonli...

[2] - http://i.imgur.com/mzyXuet.png

15. flakin+7J1[view] [source] 2021-07-05 04:31:48
>>apsec1+(OP)
For shoelace knots, the difficulty also matters.

I recently about a shoelace-practice book [1] for my 4yo daughter. This book shows a couple of ways to knot, and one of them, called "bunny ear bow" [2] is easier than the traditional "double-loop". I hope these knot-inventors pay more attention to the ease side so that kids can start knotting by themselves earlier. That could be thanked more than inventing a tricky-but-fast methods for adults.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Your-Shoes-Cottage-Door-Press/dp/1680...

[2] https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/local/hillcrest-fe...

21. justsh+kM1[view] [source] 2021-07-05 05:19:14
>>apsec1+(OP)
Salomon Quicklace is the solution for all lacing worries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgYYeJpo2fk

They are also selling retrofit kits

29. mdanie+QP1[view] [source] 2021-07-05 06:08:33
>>apsec1+(OP)
Ukrainian crew represent: https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ukrainianlacing.htm

TBH, its effectiveness depends on the friction of the actual lace material -- some of them are so smooth that it still requires loosely tying the loops across the resulting knot just to keep the pressure on it, but to me it still feels faster and smoother, and ultimately it makes me happy so I keep using it

◧◩
38. cornel+qU1[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-07-05 07:10:04
>>pmoria+bF1
Ian's secure knot (https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm) has been my go-to for similar purposes, it holds up even to running and other exercise quite well though I re-tie those each time because I like them too tight to slip off. But for daily shoes (which I leave looser and just slip on and off) I've now gone through 3 or 4 pairs in the last 10 years and the shoes or laces always break before the knot comes undone.

Super easy to untie, as well, if needed.

◧◩◪
51. yeutte+fs2[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-07-05 12:53:27
>>cornel+qU1
+1. I retie my shoes every time I wear them because I prefer them quite tight, but Ian's secure knot almost never comes untied. I usually only retie while wearing if I didn't tie my shoes tight enough in the first place.

Also on my Solovair boots, I used quick tight lacing [0], which gives you the outer "straight lacing" appearance but also allows you to make the boots very tight without spending 5 minutes to tie them. The main issue with this technique is that the laces can shift, but I marked the center of the laces with a Sharpie to serve as a guide.

[0] https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/quicktightlacing.htm

◧◩
52. vessel+zs2[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-07-05 12:56:52
>>Saint_+QY1
For those interested:

https://www.ted.com/talks/terry_moore_how_to_tie_your_shoes

◧◩
57. twirli+nI2[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-07-05 14:38:45
>>animal+Wa2
One thing that shoelace teachers seem to get wrong is teaching with empty shoes. In reality shoelaces are tied under tension. This affects the grip we used or what the rest of the hand is doing. Small wonder children find it difficult.

Even the Ian's knot demo uses an empty shoe. Since I haven't learnt his tying technique, can anyone please say if it works under tension?

In exchange I'll give you a free tip on how to dry your shoes. Remove the insoles and wedge inside a ball of absorbent paper such as kitchen towel for 10 minutes. Remove and then insert a vacuum cleaner nozzle inside. Switch on the vacuum and leave it running for 20 minutes or until dry.

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/782216-everything-is-intere...

◧◩◪
63. pmoria+t83[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-07-05 17:30:31
>>cornel+qU1
Before I switched to Perry's Perpetual knot, I liked using the Turquoise Turtle Shoelace Knot.[1]

It's almost exactly like the "standard" shoelace knot I've used most of my life, but with just an extra tuck, and it virtually never unintentionally gets untied. It's fast, easy to put on and easy to take off. Highly recommended.

[1] - http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/turquoiseturtleknot.htm

[go to top]