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1. CoolGu+(OP)[view] [source] 2021-06-04 17:14:09
Hmmm, DuckDuckGo image search shows some people standing next to tanks but not the tank man photo.

I guess it makes sense since DDG uses bing for their search tech but it's pretty disappointing that you can get uncensored searches or privacy but not both.

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2. kissgy+ba[view] [source] 2021-06-04 17:56:30
>>CoolGu+(OP)
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tank+man&t=hc&va=u&iar=images&iax=...
3. ucosty+Mb[view] [source] 2021-06-04 18:02:39
>>CoolGu+(OP)
I just get "Sorry, no results here." on DDG
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4. Andrew+sc[view] [source] 2021-06-04 18:05:08
>>CoolGu+(OP)
For me, ddg shows the image in main search, but not in image search.
5. toxik+Dl[view] [source] 2021-06-04 18:38:20
>>CoolGu+(OP)
So disappointing that a search engine like DuckDuckGo would fall prey to this sort of censorship.
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6. Taylor+4p[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-06-04 18:53:06
>>toxik+Dl
DDG uses Bing for results I’ve heard? So they’re falling prey to the censorship of their provider.
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7. hn8788+yp[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-06-04 18:54:48
>>toxik+Dl
I don't think they did. I searched for Tank Man, and the first result is the wikipedia article, followed by nothing but articles about him and the Tiananmen Square Massacre. The images section seems to be the only one that's acting weird, because if I search for "Tank Man China" it shows a bunch of pictures of him.
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8. toxik+Mp[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-06-04 18:56:09
>>Taylor+4p
Right, which is an implementation detail to some extent
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9. Initia+Rq[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-06-04 19:00:48
>>toxik+Dl
Doesn't DDG mostly rely on Bing for its results? So a result that's suspiciously missing from Bing would be likely to also be missing from DDG, unless their indexing and crawling is more comprehensive than I thought.
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10. 9wzYQb+4w[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-06-04 19:24:32
>>ucosty+Mb
Unless you have moderate safe search on, in which case it says that the results were blocked by safe search.
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11. Kirill+Aw[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-06-04 19:27:06
>>toxik+Mp
It's not an "implementation detail". It's a problem with the fact that the Internet has only two functioning crawlers remaining.
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12. frakki+tG[view] [source] 2021-06-04 20:16:49
>>CoolGu+(OP)
If you search for tank man on DDG, the very first result is the Wikipedia article about said individual and the Tiananmen Square massacre. If they were intentionally trying to censor the search results, why would they only censor images?
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13. thebig+OL[view] [source] 2021-06-04 20:52:38
>>CoolGu+(OP)
I tried turning safe search off and got some images of Tank Man
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14. froste+BR[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-06-04 21:31:38
>>Kirill+Aw
Don't forget Yandex.
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15. manana+v01[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-06-04 22:36:32
>>Kirill+Aw
Three, arguably—Yandex still exists and is generally pretty decent in addition to being the best at dealing with Russian morphology (although relying on it after Segalovich’s death seems foolish).
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16. 0xcde4+x31[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-06-04 22:58:51
>>frakki+tG
I don't think DDG is trying to censor results (nor that the parent post is suggesting that), I think they're inheriting censorship from their upstream sources, which aren't the same for different search types (web, images, news, etc.). Interestingly, it seems that even starting to type the "man" in "tank man" will result in no suggestions at all, even though the web results seem reasonable.
17. jeroen+I82[view] [source] 2021-06-05 12:05:47
>>CoolGu+(OP)
Right now, an image search for "tank man" returns the tank man photo a whole bunch of times, but only because news articles about Microsoft banning the term use the photo in their headers.

The problem still hasn't been resolved and it probably won't be any time soon. The CCP influence on Microsoft is clear; they cannot be trusted to run a search engine anymore than Baidu can.

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