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To be frank, your responses show a naive understanding of how the world works and human behavior. Also, your responses imply I said things I didn't.

My comment is simply an observation of the way things are, not the way I would want them to be.

> Fault the west for many things, but these kinds of things tend to have full transparency around them.

If you believe that, then I don't know what to say.

>>bmitc+(OP)
>To be frank, your responses show a naive understanding of how the world works and human behavior.

When it comes to pandemics, this is how the world health authorities have done things. There very much was a lot of world collaboration and transparency around epidemics and pandemics. So don't gaslight and say that this is somehow 'naïve'. That's how everybody did things, until China decided it would be embarrassing to them. Hell they were silencing and incarcerating doctors and frontline workers when they suggested there is some sort of a new virus out there as late as January 2020.

This is the modus operandi of communist and authoritarian regimes.

>My comment is simply an observation of the way things are, not the way I would want them to be.

You literally said that had Trump insulted your honor you would have lied and obfuscated the same way that China did. Here's your statement (emphasis mine): "our idiotic president calling it the Chinese virus from the start, why in the hell would China want to be upfront about what they knew about the origin if it indeed was a lab leak? I WOULDN'T."

How is that not an immoral statement.

>If you believe that, then I don't know what to say.

I'm under no illusions when it comes to the general idea that nations are always truthful - they aren't. I didn't make a general statement. I scoped it to transparency around epidemics and pandemics. And yes, the vast majority of nations (not just the West) are very transparent on this point. China is a major outlier here.

>>macspo+Ag
“I wouldn’t” is taken within the context as if I was a nation governing people in the current global environment. It’s a hypothetical because I’m not a nation state. Would I actually if I was? Who knows? I put it there to basically say I can see why all this has happened the way it has. I thought all of this context was obvious.

And what you say I said about Trump is not at all what I said. You say I literally said something that I literally did not. My point is that he created a certain environment, a highly politicized and biased environment, not conducive in any way to discovering truths about the virus and damn near everything else. He was a catalyst for non-truths and has been his entire life. It has nothing to do with honor or insults.