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1. macspo+(OP)[view] [source] 2021-06-04 14:04:15
>Would Fauci have even known?

So maybe he finds out before making statements?

I've lost faith in Fauci when he admitted he lied about the efficacy of masks early on in the pandemic. He literally came out and stated he lied in order to make sure frontline healthcare workers had enough PPE. That was the most insane statement I've ever heard a public health leader make - lying about healthcare to the public that may result in more infections. That is how you destroy public trust.

What's sad is that the population would understand if you just told them the truth, namely that masks help, but our frontline works desperately need them so getting them masks and PPE is a priority.

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2. quickt+dl[view] [source] 2021-06-04 16:04:48
>>macspo+(OP)
> What's sad is that the population would understand if you just told them the truth, namely that masks help, but our frontline works desperately need them so getting them masks and PPE is a priority.

Maybe elsewhere, but not in America. This is one of the most selfish/individualist countries on earth.

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3. lovecg+tm[view] [source] 2021-06-04 16:11:49
>>macspo+(OP)
And in case there was any doubt he also came out and said he intentionally lied about the required level of vaccination needed to achieve herd immunity [0] so that people don’t get too discouraged. He seems to be squarely in the “ends justify the means” camp. While the effectiveness of that is debatable, I find it hard to believe anything he says at this point.

[0] “In a telephone interview the next day, Dr. Fauci acknowledged that he had slowly but deliberately been moving the goal posts. He is doing so, he said, partly based on new science, and partly on his gut feeling that the country is finally ready to hear what he really thinks.” https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/24/health/herd-immunity-covi...

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4. shagmi+Fp[view] [source] 2021-06-04 16:27:20
>>macspo+(OP)
>the population would understand

I don't like these "strategic" lies either. And I agree the population in general would understand, but I think there'd still have been plenty of people that would've hoarded every mask possible, and at the time they had to make decisions based on possible scenarios, whereas now we have hindsight. Especially if things were handled differently in the beginning and the mask vs non-mask polarization manifested differently, who knows.

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5. macspo+TB[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-06-04 17:18:51
>>shagmi+Fp
>And I agree the population in general would understand, but I think there'd still have been plenty of people that would've hoarded every mask possible

And many people did hoard masks, and toilet paper, and sanitizers. So Fauci solved nothing except destroy trust in public health authorities. It also wasn't the last time that he lied for 'people's own good'.

I believed him. I did. I don't believe him anymore.

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6. macspo+FC[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-06-04 17:21:50
>>quickt+dl
>Maybe elsewhere, but not in America. This is one of the most selfish/individualist countries on earth.

That's a disgusting statement. People are people. And the vast majority of people in every country are good people.

It's also not true, but even if it was, he has no right to lie to people about their healthcare and well-being. You can't do that because this kind of lie actually hurt people who would have wore a mask (homemade or otherwise) but didn't (and maybe got sick or died), all because they trusted him.

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7. macspo+qE[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-06-04 17:29:03
>>lovecg+tm
Yeah, I've seen that too. It's unbelievable that the press gave (and continues to give) him a pass.
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