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1. gentle+(OP)[view] [source] 2021-05-24 15:35:41
Or, they were skeptics of the words of a compulsive serial liar and manipulator. It’s not partisan to stop trusting somebody like that.

Edit: it is factually true to say Trump lied in manipulative ways constantly, and easy to confirm. This is not a partisan statement, it’s a fact that can be checked. Here are 5276 examples: https://projects.thestar.com/donald-trump-fact-check/

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2. bart_s+xl[view] [source] 2021-05-24 17:06:51
>>gentle+(OP)
> Or, they were skeptics of the words of a compulsive serial liar and manipulator. It’s not partisan to stop trusting somebody like that.

The issue here is that, as journalists, their job is to look at facts and weight evidence independently, rather than simply base judgements on the person making the statements. There has been ample evidence to at least consider a lab-leak theory very plausible, or even likely, but those were largely ignored. Instead, the media seemed content to report that Trump is claiming this thing, and Trump sucks, so this thing must also suck. Not exactly inspiring behavior from the "fourth estate".

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3. gentle+s51[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-05-24 21:11:57
>>bart_s+xl
That’s fair, but this isn’t an ordinary liar. If a known con artist is raving about his new youth serum, after being caught lying thousands and thousands of times in the last 4 years, it’s not inappropriate for the press to respond with “this known con artist has no evidence to support his claims” after a short glance - they are so busy dealing with the other 1000 recent lies that they don’t have time to investigate everything this person says in depth. The magnitude of the lies and manipulation was unheard of.

The fact is, you need to hear the story from somebody credible before it becomes worth investigating, otherwise we would still have journalists trying to uncover the alleged thousands of murders by immigrants kept secret by bizarre conspiracies (which, again, lacks evidence) - the claims have to come from somebody capable of basic truth telling.

4. stjohn+if1[view] [source] 2021-05-24 22:20:58
>>gentle+(OP)
Sorry you're getting downvoted, but you are correct. He literally told thousands of blatant lies and nothing that was coming out of his mouth could be trusted. The collective amnesia of republicans is astonishing. "Trust" in the source is quite important for reporting the facts. Not every reporter has the time to wade through tons of horseshit to find a single nugget of truth.
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