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The way this virus attacks multiple systems and has such a wide range of symptoms, I am convinced it is a man-made supervirus. I am leaning towards it was accidental in how it was released but I have no idea what's going on anymore and the media only confuses me more.

There are already variants and these vaccines will need booster shots to stay effective from what I was told. I'm not sure though. Is this true?

Covid has taught me a few things:

- Health is as important as wealth, living well is making time for both. It takes good health to build lasting wealth and to enjoy it. It takes at least some wealth to invest in good food, living space, life experiences.

- Living in Maui and working remotely is like semi-retiring in my 30s. I can make money and enjoy life at the same time without taking years off my life due to commutes and stress. Why didn't I do this in my 20s? I was learning the skills and figuring out what exactly I wanted in life. Now I know.

- I don't need a lot of people to be happy, just a handful of high-quality people. More than anything, I should give myself a lot of what I expect from others.

- Nature is more resilient than we know, Earth really be fine with or without humans. We can change if we want to but we can't agree on anything anymore. I'm hoping for the best but prepared for the worst.

>>rblion+(OP)
SARS-COV-1 attacked systems in a similar way. MERS is a multi system virus as well. They are similar to SARS-Cov-2

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_respiratory_synd...

>>graeme+X
Mers mortality was really scary, 30-40% I read earlier today. Just imagine what would have happened if that spread

>>graeme+X
The big difference here is that now we have the added problem of dealing with ACE2 bindings which affect human lungs/liver/heart/pancreas/etc.

This is a dangerous difference.

> SARS-CoV recognizes angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) as its receptor, whereas MERS-CoV recognizes dipeptidyl peptidase 4 (DPP4) as its receptor.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41423-020-0400-4

>>graeme+X
The common point of origin for all of these is bats, right?

That's what was being researched in Wuhan from what I've read in the media.

>>thowaw+O1
SARS-COV-1 also used ACE2 receptors. In fact your article specifically discusses that, and suggests there was potential to use SARS-COV-1 vaccine development to create SARS-COV-2 vaccines.

The ACE2 receptor affinity is not novel.

>>graeme+u2
Sort of. Very different without getting into the weeds.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41392-020-0184-0

>>rblion+o2
You are right to question all of this. The science thus far backs up what you are claiming and the public narrative is shifting.

>>thowaw+T6
Thanks. I've learned that a group of lawyers from Germany are filing a massive lawsuit. one of the lawyers took on VW a few years back for the whole Dieselgate thing and won.

>>rblion+(OP)
“The way this virus attacks multiple systems and has such a wide range of symptoms, I am convinced it is a man-made supervirus.”

Convinced how?

I don’t understand the reasoning. It’s not unusual for a virus to attack multiple systems or to have varying symptoms.

>>alphab+Gh
The bigger conversation is COVID cured so many other causes of death. I don't know any other viruses that have done that.

>>rblion+(OP)
As a rule, any parasite, invasive bacteria, or virus harms its host, but over time they usually evolve towards exploiting the host more efficiently, which often includes being less harmful.

Among these, viruses integrate quite closely with their host, so viruses that jump into a new species should normally infect less well, but sometimes they infect fine and just harm the host excessively. SARS, MERS, etc.

>>rblion+(OP)
If I was making a super virus I’d make it a bit more super. COVID sucks but most people live through it without serious or chronic symptoms. What am I, the evil mastermind, achieving with a virus mildly inconveniencing my enemies? And which surely can’t be controlled enough to spare my friends?

>>rblion+o2
> The common point of origin for all of these is bats, right?

The 2004 SARS was suspected to be lab leak. (I'm not sure if this conclusion has been revised since.)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC416634/