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1. Milner+(OP)[view] [source] 2021-05-24 00:55:03
To your point, CNN adds an interesting detail which isn't being as widely reported:

The workers at the lab "were tested and there was no evidence found of Covid antibodies."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/23/politics/us-intelligence-repo...

So theoretically it's possible that three workers at the lab were sick -- and hospitalized -- but with, say the seasonal flu. The original reports from the State Department about this even specified that the workers had been sick with symptoms "consistent with both COVID-19 and common seasonal illness."

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/new-report-of-illnesses-at...

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2. brohoo+8[view] [source] 2021-05-24 00:57:00
>>Milner+(OP)
That’s a pretty important point to leave out. Although given the accuracy of the early antibody tests… it doesn’t rule anything out completely.
3. nokcha+l1[view] [source] 2021-05-24 01:06:24
>>Milner+(OP)
>The workers at the lab "were tested and there was no evidence found of Covid antibodies."

Tested by whom and how? If a trustworthy disinterested party positively identified the workers, took their blood samples, and tested them via a procedure with a low false-negative rate, then the test results are meaningful. Otherwise, there is reason for doubt.

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4. qtwhat+22[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-05-24 01:13:46
>>nokcha+l1
Then there is no need to argue anymore, my friend.
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5. Milner+z2[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-05-24 01:19:38
>>nokcha+l1
Sure, I'll grant you that there's reason for doubting that the lab workers' tests were authentic. But I guess by that same logic, just trying to be accurate and fair here, there'd also be a reason for doubt -- and also for genuine credibility -- in all three of these scenarios.

1. The testing showing no Covid-19 antibodies was fraudulent and faked.

2. That testing was not faked. The workers did not have Covid-19 antibodies; their illness was caused by some other illness.

3. The report of the lab workers' illness is faked. (It came from a conservative newspaper, from unnamed officials citing an unnamed international partner -- where somewhere along that chain, someone had the proper motivation.)

I'm not arguing for any one of these things. We just honestly do not know.

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6. buster+cu[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-05-24 07:50:02
>>Milner+z2
They were tested back in November for antibodies for something that China won't acknowledge even existed yet and we didn't put a name on for another month or two?
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