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How I built the world's first 3D ultrasonic scanner

submitted by belzeb+(OP) on 2021-05-08 21:19:03 | 152 points 44 comments
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1. wyager+Rn[view] [source] 2021-05-09 01:09:17
>>belzeb+(OP)
There have been some projects to make “sonic cameras” using MEMS mic arrays that this reminds me of. https://hackaday.com/2020/08/10/acoustic-camera-uses-many-ma...
4. abduct+8z[view] [source] 2021-05-09 03:27:25
>>belzeb+(OP)
well, you sir, are the first. except maybe those lamers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_ultrasound

:)

14. vander+oT[view] [source] 2021-05-09 08:16:59
>>belzeb+(OP)
> If it's so easy, why hasn't anyone done it before?

Medical 3D ultrasounds are a thing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_ultrasound

That doesn't take away anything from how cool this project is though!

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16. belzeb+hU[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-05-09 08:31:16
>>little+xT
It is this year's entrance exam (PSI) for the École Normale Supérieure and the Polytechnique school.

The subjects have not been officially published. But here's a scanned copy:

https://www.cpge-paradise.com/Concours2021/PhysPSI.pdf

It's in French though!

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21. raverb+uW[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-05-09 09:03:21
>>belzeb+RU
There are two reasons why you don't put it there, one of which you explained "The NPN capacitor here only cuts out the alimentation of the capacitor, but there's nothing to discharge it.". Yes, the transducer has (theoretical) infinite resistive load.

But another reason (which would be valid for a resistive load as well) is that anything plugged into the emitter will have its impedance "reflected" to the base.

Even if you're talking about a digital circuit you need to think about transistor biasing. A pure capacitive load on the emitter means no biasing.

One of the ways you could work around this is to have an inductor in parallel with the transducer so it would resonate at the frequency you want https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LC_circuit (though not very practical to your case) - but ideally this would go on the collector, not on the emitter

Your 3 transistor solution is ok for the most part. Maybe it's doable with only one transistor but probably would need an inductor and/or wouldn't be too efficient.

(Not the best explanation, but this would require some trial and error and actually thinking a bit about the analog aspects of the circuit)

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25. minipc+141[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-05-09 10:42:32
>>belzeb+hY
I only quickly checked and found this:

https://rusneb.ru/catalog/000224_000128_0000488231_19751015_...

-- click on "Skachat' PDF" (second from the top on the left). Unfortunately it is in Russian, not sure whether English translation exists.

This patent seems only for (X,Y) coordinate capture, but the same authors later worked on 3D setups as well.

EDIT: let me know if you need help with translation

26. acomje+i41[view] [source] 2021-05-09 10:45:49
>>belzeb+(OP)
Reminds me of phased array radars. Where they form an array of transmitters into a moveable “beam”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phased_array

Radar is at its simplistic sensing a pulse out and listening for a return. But then the engineers wanted more.. of course home radar would not be really safe.

Cool project by the way.

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31. ameliu+M61[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-05-09 11:12:49
>>belzeb+G61
https://pcbshopper.com/
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32. nerdbe+E81[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-05-09 11:36:27
>>belzeb+G61
https://aisler.net/

they definitely aren’t as cheap as Chinese offers but I always found them to be reasonably priced. They manufacture in Germany.

36. sorenj+Uc1[view] [source] 2021-05-09 12:30:38
>>belzeb+(OP)
Phased array ultrasonics[0] and Multibeam echo sounding[1] has been around for decades[2]. This project in particular is an example of what's called an air coupled ultrasonic phased array. It's an interesting project, but it's not first. Congrats on making it happen though, and thanks for the write up.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phased_array_ultrasonics

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multibeam_echosounder

[2] https://patents.google.com/patent/US5675552

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