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1. Viliam+(OP)[view] [source] 2021-04-09 19:14:53
What exactly are the good guys supposed to do in a situation where bad guys enjoy the truth: support the noble lie, or hiss "you are not supposed to talk about this"?
replies(2): >>brigan+x11 >>dTal+vu1
2. brigan+x11[view] [source] 2021-04-10 03:47:31
>>Viliam+(OP)
Perhaps not divvy up the world, or people, as "good" and "bad" and instead focus on truth?

Or perhaps consider that if truth is good, then more truth is likely to be more good, and good people would (should) embrace truth and bad guys speaking more truth would be better than bad guys using less (as surely that is one way to measure who is bad).

Given these options (and I could go on) I'm not sure why a "noble" lie or suppression of speech are the only choices, or better choices.

3. dTal+vu1[view] [source] 2021-04-10 10:56:42
>>Viliam+(OP)
What a jewel of a comment. One could not ask for a more succinct elucidation of the term "culture war". Truth should never be subsidiary to tribal loyalties. Lies are never noble.

The world would be a better place if we opted for Option C: embrace the truth. And if you must fight "bad guys", fight what makes them bad instead of gaslighting them.

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