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Ok, but they should be forced then to do the things they don't want to do?

What I mean is: if Signal is not Elment.io/matrix, and that the latter is better for freedom and openness, then one can agree with with that. But what I don't understand is the demand from people that Signal somehow owes them the ability to be like matrix, be federated, etc. and also be so judgemental about it, is what rubs me the wrong way.

>>kreetx+(OP)
I've tried to approach this thread in good faith, as your earlier replies seemed genuinely curious/discussion oriented, but the "ok, but" tone is making them seem increasingly shill-like.

I don't think anyone's "demanding" or "forcing" anything here. We're simply describing a definition of what we consider desirable as a sustainable secure messaging option, and pointing out the specific reasons that Signal isn't currently living up to that definition.

It's maintainers are free to continue on their way ignoring said definition.

Personally, my own comments are not targeted at Signal devs but rather at others who might consider using Signal thinking it provides certain guarantees when it doesn't.