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1. analyt+(OP)[view] [source] 2021-03-28 23:01:22
The conflict of interest on their part is obviously massive. And given what we know about asymptomatic transmission and the minor symptoms in many young, healthy people, it could be weeks or longer from the initial infection (wherever it was) until anybody noticing anything unusual.
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2. sudosy+S[view] [source] 2021-03-28 23:06:18
>>analyt+(OP)
Likely, no one would notice anything unusual at all for months.

The WIV simply doesn't hide samples for long enough for this to be a likely scenario.

By the way, it's estimated there's multiple hundred infections by novel coronavirus pathogens in China every year. So why would the much lower number of viral escapes be considered beyond it when we have the additional constrait of the sample not having been shared with anyone, whereas normally this is done?

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3. analyt+I2[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-03-28 23:22:05
>>sudosy+S
Did they immediately publish the details of every gain-of-function coronavirus experiment they ever did, or does it sit in a notebook or a private database for some period of time? A lag time of 4-6 weeks seems reasonable here, not 6 months. There still seems to be room for a natural origin, but to say a lab escape is completely impossible because one of maybe a dozen people (or less) would have been both willing and able to be a whistleblower doesn't seem right.
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4. sudosy+q5[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-03-28 23:40:04
>>analyt+I2
They don't immediately make articles about them no. However, they don't work alone - if you read articles from the WIV on the matter every single one of them is made in collaboration with international researchers, which would have had access to notebooks and private databases.

4-6 weeks is lower than what we've seen abroad - in Italy between the likely patient zero in September 2019 and the first official case in late february, 5 months had gone.

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