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> A number of people I talk to (curiously they tend to be production engineers) think we live in a meritocracy where racism and sexism have virtually been erased.

Do they? I don't think I know anybody like this. Most of the people I know think we live in a flawed and complex world. That's why so many of them are less forthcoming with casual acquaintances, in "mixed company" as they say, as this article describes.

Not to doubt too agressively, but are you sure those people you know believe what you think they believe?

>>will42+(OP)
Absolutely. After hours in a break area, people would be much more candid when they think everyone agrees with them, and then they state this out loud.

I have chat logs with a PE at a FAANG who starts off by declaring that diversity is bullshit, not just efforts but the goal itself, and that race or gender is no impediment to success.

What’s even more demonstrative is so many here saying they are afraid to comment without making a new account because of ‘woke’ culture, but those are likely the people downvoting me to oblivion for suggesting that racists and sexists are the root cause of the situation.

>>antite+E1
I don't really understand. How could somebody simultaneously believe we live in a meritocracy and be afraid of a woke mob attacking them for saying something they believe is correct? Surely in a meritocracy, the mob would praise their correct thinking, not attack them?

Are you sure those people weren't saying that it was best to _act like_ a meritocracy (as opposed to one actually existing today)?

>>will42+y4
You assume a mob is rational and therefore will not attack someone if that person is in the right. A mob can not and will never be rational by construction.

>>will42+y4
It’s more that they believe woke culture is the core impediment to said meritocracy.