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1. throwa+(OP)[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:37:44
I also work in a very “woke culture.” In fact, as a straight, white, cis man I am in the extreme minority.

I have been told that I can’t do my job which includes negotiating with LGBTQ+ companies because I am an “old, white, cis guy and there is always an unfair power dynamic there” just because of my identity. It is discrimination plain and simple, but I literally stand to have my career derailed if I fight back. One accusation and I don’t get hired again.

I joined the company because I believed, and still believe in company mission which is LGBTQ+ focused.

There is no room for allies at some companies and they silence opinions they don’t like. It hurts everyone.

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2. baby+42[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:47:36
>>throwa+(OP)
had to google what cis is:

> A cisgender person (sometimes cissexual, informally abbreviated cis) is one whose gender identity matches their sex assigned at birth. For example, someone who identifies as a woman and was identified as female at birth is a cisgender woman. The word cisgender is the antonym of transgender.

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3. anonfo+R2[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:50:59
>>throwa+(OP)
If the company is discriminating against you and like others, why would you still believe in their mission, or at least their ability to carry it out? Why not move to a more sane company that doesn’t have as many mines you might inadvertently step on?
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4. throwi+g3[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-03-28 19:52:37
>>baby+42
Thanks, would have never known something so bizarre.
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5. Charle+k4[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:58:19
>>throwa+(OP)
> I have been told that I can’t do my job which includes negotiating with LGBTQ+ companies because I am an “old, white, cis guy and there is always an unfair power dynamic there” just because of my identity.

IANAL, and I don't know what "LGBTQ+ company" means, but if you believe that you're not being allowed to negotiate with other companies because of your age, race, and gender, you can (and should) sue for discrimination.

6. Bonobo+r5[view] [source] 2021-03-28 20:03:14
>>throwa+(OP)
This reminds my of this meme:

"It Hurt Itself in Its Confusion!"

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/it-hurt-itself-in-its-confusi...

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7. Charle+76[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-03-28 20:06:38
>>throwi+g3
That comment might make sense a decade ago (when it was mostly relegated to academic journals)[1], but it's been in common use (at least in the U.S.) for years.[2]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender [2] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=cisgende...

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8. baby+e8[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-03-28 20:17:36
>>Charle+76
People learn new things every day
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9. stonog+G9[view] [source] 2021-03-28 20:25:57
>>throwa+(OP)
Interesting pivot from identity politics to "opinions they don't like." One is discrimination, the other is business as usual. I wouldn't conflate the two.
10. iamlep+wf[view] [source] 2021-03-28 21:00:36
>>throwa+(OP)
As a gay man myself, I urge you to consider leaving such a toxic environment. I’ve experienced similar (even though I’m gay myself). A more extreme version of what you described actually exists within the LGBT community itself; being gay is sometimes not enough anymore.

A common theme I’ve noticed in these groups is their penchant for using the term “cis male”. Doesn’t matter if you’re straight or gay, the hate is still the same.

It’s better to just walk away from these situations and groups.

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11. boolea+Af[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-03-28 21:01:02
>>baby+42
I never really saw the point of this term, to be honest. To me it just feels like a sly way to normalize being abnormal.

Imagine if we had specific terms for someone who doesn't shoplift, or who doesn't eat other people's pets.

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12. dnissl+2k[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-03-28 21:27:54
>>Charle+76
Lest we forget, there are a lot of people out there who don't belong to the so-called chattering classes. And that's ok.
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13. Phelin+Cu[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-03-28 22:39:22
>>baby+42
I thought it meant "Commonwealth of Independent States", the CIS region
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14. therea+y51[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-03-29 04:33:51
>>baby+e8
So envious of your username :)
15. kilroy+Fj4[view] [source] 2021-03-30 00:47:01
>>throwa+(OP)
dude just leave, it's not worth your time. go to an engineering firm or something.
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