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1. kumarm+(OP)[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:24:34
Now you know how the other side felt all along :).

Seriously, we are now asked to treat everyone with respect and that is a problem?

Edit: No I don't mean eye for eye. I am merely pointing out, this is a male dominant industry where women didn't even have a chance for a long time. The moment we face little uneasiness, we are complaining and throwing temper tantrums.

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2. hkt+31[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:31:10
>>kumarm+(OP)
OP is perhaps suggesting that a system where nobody feels like they have a target on their back is possible. Such that we don't (as you appear to tacitly admit we do) simply creature a culture that is still toxic, but for different people.

So, no, it isn't a problem to respect everyone.

3. celtic+a1[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:31:36
>>kumarm+(OP)
No, that's not the problem. It's that offense is easy to take at anything and companies erring on the side of caution will prefer to get rid so they appear to be doing something. Whether it is right or not doesn't matter by the time the truth is out the actions have been taken.
4. sputr+Y1[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:35:01
>>kumarm+(OP)
You wrote 2 sentences and still managed to contradict yourself.

Either parent and 'other side' have been both victimised (by him now knowing how they felt) or parent isn't a victim but since you claim he is experiancing what 'the other side' did neither were they.

Maybe try listening for a change.

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5. colech+42[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:35:13
>>kumarm+(OP)
Every sense of morality transformed into abuse has at least some basis in what would be called real objective good.

You cannot simplify the problems of "woke culture" as "asking everyone to treat others with respect", because that is not what is happening on the dark side of "woke" and you can't pretend that the dark side doesn't exist.

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6. dang+V2[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-03-28 19:39:05
>>sputr+Y1
> Maybe try listening for a change.

Please omit personal swipes from your HN posts, no matter how wrong another comment is or you feel it is.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

7. Swenre+n3[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:41:21
>>kumarm+(OP)
The problem isn’t to treat people with respect. The problem is that some few people are absolutely hellbent on interpreting any interaction through a lens of sexism or racism, and a large silent majority allows them for fear of drawing unwanted attention and/or harm.

This is not to say that sexism or racism isn’t or hasn’t been a large problem, but the correction pendulum has really swung way too far for some people and that is actually not at all helpful since it only builds up resentment among people who actually are supporters of the cause of equality.

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8. mrxd+q3[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:41:34
>>kumarm+(OP)
Yes, that’s what it’s about. Turnabout is fair play. You should think through the long term consequences of that.

I wish you weren’t getting downvoted because I think your comment reveals so much.

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9. roryko+14[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:44:10
>>kumarm+(OP)
What other side? This whole othering of people is just regressive tribalism.
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10. zdragn+c8[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-03-28 20:03:56
>>mrxd+q3
Eye for an eye really isn't a great way to run a society.
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11. Nextgr+t8[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-03-28 20:05:17
>>Swenre+n3
> The problem is that some few people are absolutely hellbent on interpreting any interaction through a lens of sexism or racism, and a large silent majority allows them for fear of drawing unwanted attention and/or harm.

A lot of people might not just be that good at what they do but manage to advance by way of their gender/race and scare away any negative feedback. Thus, given that their skills themselves won't save them, leveraging mob justice to do so is a viable strategy for them.

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