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1. sto_hr+(OP)[view] [source] 2021-03-28 12:34:51
Yeah, sure go look for it more than a year later. That's how it works best.

China and WHO spit in the face of the world. And world smiled back and greeted them.

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2. simonh+h2[view] [source] 2021-03-28 12:55:18
>>sto_hr+(OP)
The WHO is a horrible cobbled together mess of political interference and compromises.

The WHO is also a vital resource for developing nations which lack the technical infrastructure and know-how to do their own research or develop their own policies, and depend on support from the WHO to advise and provide resources to deal with medical crises. It's out there saving lives across the developing world every day.

Both of these things are true, but the reason the WHO is a political football is because the nation states it depends on for funding and resources keep kicking it about for their own political purposes. The WHO is the organisation our countries have built, organised the way we structured it, vulnerable to nation state interference so that our nations can interfere with them when we want to.

The only way to get the job the WHO are tasked with done properly is to stop kicking them about and actually support them in their efforts. Insist they be freed from nation state interference, stop blaming them for being kicked about, and go after the nation states interfering with and undermining them. That also means reforming the WHO itself and better resourcing it. We need to stop being part of the problem and start being part of the solution.

3. Touche+Pc[view] [source] 2021-03-28 14:18:12
>>sto_hr+(OP)
How exactly did the world "smile back and greet them"?
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4. sto_hr+zD[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-03-28 17:30:49
>>Touche+Pc
By not doing anything to counteract China's self-interest influence over the whole organization. China turned them in a personal PR agency that went as far as having WHO's head renaming the virus to something that doesn't mention its origins and everyone happily ate it without question.

It's infuriating. The only entity of significant influence that offered some resistance was Trump, but his leadership was compromised and had little to none net support to make a difference.

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5. dang+8W[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:26:03
>>sto_hr+(OP)
Please don't post nationalistic flamewar comments to HN. Comments like this are destructive of the forum, regardless of your views on the underlying issues. Protecting the commons from disintegrating and destroying itself is the higher priority here, for what should be obvious reasons.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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6. Touche+ig1[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-03-28 21:14:04
>>sto_hr+zD
This is about the name, I see.
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7. sto_hr+5n2[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-03-29 08:39:13
>>Touche+ig1
One example of it. Others were mentioned also. Get rid of your bias.
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8. sto_hr+eo2[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-03-29 08:52:44
>>dang+8W
Your interpretation doesn't change the facts around it. WHO lost significant portion of its funding for a while because exactly of China's self-interest influence. But because others, like you, see that as "nationalistic" and "destructive", that effort was in vain and to this day the status quo remains the same and the end result is at hand - "nobody can find out what triggered the pandemic."

My comment didn't disintegrate and destroyed more commons than said status quo. Inaction and censorship did.

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9. dang+8H4[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-03-29 20:38:34
>>sto_hr+eo2
When I say "protecting the commons" here, I mean that participants to HN need to post in a way that protects and enhances the forum, not contribute to destroying it. Everyone needs to do that regardless of how others behave, regardless of what the situation in the world is or you believe it is, or how strongly you feel about it.
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