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1. ryandr+(OP)[view] [source] 2021-03-22 21:24:50
Worrying about where it came from is misdirection to distract us from the real issue that you pointed out: That nearly all countries totally failed to effectively deal with it and contain the spread, resulting in a body count that should be totally unacceptable. We got extraordinarily lucky that it wasn't super deadly. Imagine if the next COVID is 20X deadlier and hits uniformly across age ranges. We're doomed if we take the approach we took this time around.
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2. nexus2+H[view] [source] 2021-03-22 21:28:08
>>ryandr+(OP)
Especially considering Contagion was filmed close to 10 years ago...
3. mc32+Y1[view] [source] 2021-03-22 21:33:55
>>ryandr+(OP)
And maybe people should not have dismissed it as a crockpot idea that should be dismissed out or hand and had Twitter suspensions over mentioning it.

And maybe if it was a leak and the world had been warned of the dangers then they would have locked down movement to and from the origin before it began to spread internationally.

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4. esja+43[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-03-22 21:38:27
>>mc32+Y1
The way China responded to the leak, I don't think they felt it was a crackpot idea. Quite the reverse.
5. enchir+f4[view] [source] 2021-03-22 21:42:17
>>ryandr+(OP)
Yes and no. The response would have been far greater if the virus was more deadly. This virus was not that deadly (relatively), so ended up getting half measures.
6. tryone+o4[view] [source] 2021-03-22 21:42:49
>>ryandr+(OP)
I imagine if it were deadlier, people would have been more incentivised to deal with it. Bodies piling up on the streets is a much better motivator for staying inside and socially distancing than news reports of regional hospitals being gradually overwhelmed by a predominantly mild or asymptomatic virus.

The fact is that even ignoring government response, all of our medical institutions seemed to presume that this was yet another [avian, swine, bird, ...] flu outbreak and it would be about as minimally impactful for the west as the rest have been. Which indicates that doctors and hospital administration were either not reading the literature coming out of China as early as last january 2020, or they simply disregarded it as sensationalist and/or sloppy. And, to be fair, given the state of crisis that our research institutions are in globally, I can't entirely blame them, though I still think it was irresponsible that no one seemed to make any preparations for months after the outbreak was apparent. It's as if everyone sat on their hands waiting for the government to tell them it was serious.

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7. tryone+O4[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-03-22 21:44:10
>>mc32+Y1
An excellent case against twitter's "fact checking" and censorship. They are not experts, and as this whole debacle proves, experts are fallible too, and it is not twitter's place to determine and censor dissent from consensus.
8. dfee+T4[view] [source] 2021-03-22 21:44:28
>>ryandr+(OP)
This reads like “we shouldn’t worry about the cause, only the effect”. As in, I’m unable to see another interpretation of your remark.

No! We should worry about the cause and also concern ourselves with managing the effect.

If we can prevent this, we should try. And, if our (American) politicians can be held to account for mishandling the situation, the WHO and China should be scrutinized on the international stage.

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9. waheoo+L6[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-03-22 21:52:53
>>tryone+o4
Medical professionals are commonly wildly uninformed about recent research. Most GPs don't keep up on new research decades old let alone cutting edge research out of lancet.
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