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1. jessau+(OP)[view] [source] 2021-01-22 22:06:13
Please be specific. Liquid anhydrous ammonia is a common fertilizer. John Deere still sells e.g. the 2430 and the 2510. How did the hypothetical "very much wanted" products differ from those applicators? Are we talking about a handheld model? (That might have been a bad idea!) One suspects the hypothetical "evil persons" whose threat delayed product development were more interested in cooking meth than in terrorist attacks...
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2. bluGil+zy[view] [source] 2021-01-23 02:36:57
>>jessau+(OP)
None of them can be controlled from the internet.
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3. jessau+8o1[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-01-23 13:54:58
>>bluGil+zy
John Deere is to be commended, one supposes, for being much more concerned about blackhat terrorists than e.g. Siemens with all their internet-accessible SCADA installations, but neither ISIS nor Putin care about killing a couple of farmers in western Iowa. Thread parent was about automobiles, and while maybe professionally-operated vehicles like semi trucks or buses would be better with which to start using ammonia on a large scale, vehicles are unlike applicator implements in that they aren't actually designed to release ammonia into the environment. Conceivably a car could be hacked to lock the brakes at high speed, but there's just no mechanism to pour out its fuel tank.
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4. bluGil+hP4[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-01-24 20:13:52
>>jessau+8o1
How do you know that the tank won't rupture in an accident? Such engineering is not cheap.
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5. jessau+ci7[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-01-25 16:18:46
>>bluGil+hP4
Ammonia is less flammable and explosive than gasoline, which is commonly found in currently-engineered and currently-existing fuel tanks. They are both much less flammable and explosive than hydrogen, which is the other fuel under discussion in this thread. Ammonia tanks would be pressurized, which is different than gasoline, but lots of tanks are pressurized.
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