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1. imdsm+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-09-29 18:20:30
Of course not. You're free to suggest what you like. I'm not going to say something here and put thegrimmest into a list because I disagree with you and think you should pay extra for your flights.

/But/, and there's always a but, I do think the trend towards shutting people down who you don't agree with is terrible. Pragmatic debate seems impossible online, and let's face it, that's how we're all communicating now. When there is the risk of social backlash affecting your livelihood, you'll keep your ideas and opinions to yourself, even if they could be useful to society.

I mean, anyone who thinks the ideals of today are without flaw, just wait til the year 2100 when they'll be seen as backwards.

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2. thegri+C7[view] [source] 2020-09-29 19:05:25
>>imdsm+(OP)
I think the thing that will cool off is the generation of outrage, and heated (note the term), emotional discourse.

> I do think the trend towards shutting people down who you don't agree with is terrible.

I think the more considered and closer one's speech is to factual, the harder it is to generate outrage. I think a cooling trend pushes people in that direction when composing their speech. I think this is a good thing.

I don't think ideals are ever without flaw. The important question is how do we live together when we know that we disagree and will not ever all agree?

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3. kart23+Jt[view] [source] 2020-09-29 21:11:06
>>imdsm+(OP)
Society as a whole already normalizes this sort of thing. Many people will have to pay more for a house, and many more will simply be denied. When this paradigm is already so normal, people aren't going to be so averse to their digital and social habits being tracked and rewarded, ESPECIALLY if its advertised as a way to get discounts or benefits on certain services. Car insurance companies are trying it out as well.

The whole entire notion of a credit history, credit reporting agencies, and the idea of my personal information being out there and out of my control sounds so weird.

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4. maland+4M[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-09-29 23:15:17
>>thegri+C7
> I think the more considered and closer one's speech is to factual, the harder it is to generate outrage

Sadly that's not the case since there is the phenomena of canceling people over what are called "hate facts".

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