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You’re not thinking long enough. Give the state enough time and it will use it as a cudgel to get people to do things the way they want.

>>mc32+(OP)
Or they will be returned to the exact same state they would be in otherwise? How is that a threat? Would a hungry person turn down a free meal because they will just be hungry later and they don’t want to be reliant on whoever gave them the meal?

>>mc32+(OP)
I'd like to see what real-world examples you're thinking of when you write this, because the line of reasoning you're pursuing in this part of the thread looks to me more like a terminally cynical description of having a society and legal system.