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Calling people you disagree with "white supremacists" has certainly gained ground.

But people self identifying as such are extremely rare.

>>Burnin+(OP)
Many non-identifying white supremacists have white supremacist adjacent ideals such as xenophobia.

It's very hard to support with a straight face that the acceptance of the confederate flag in the south does not have racial overtones.

>>Burnin+(OP)
In the way it might be casted upon supporters of the President, the distinction between white supremacy and white power is largely semantics.

As far as I understand it, "white supremacy" for those that desire it is the idealized end result of "white power." Much of the rhetoric from President Trump is to rally support for white power. [1]

Given the most common disagreement in the US is between those who advocate for or oppose President Trump, it makes sense that his followers would be deemed "white supremacists"

I believe the broad awakening among many white people in the US currently is the ambient benefits of invisible white power.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6iSgqFahoM

>>ntspln+Yc
Acceptance of the confederate flag has definitely decreased a lot the last half century.

So if that's your measure, white supremacy is not doing well at all.

>>ntspln+Yc
Many people experience legitimate problems in life to which the've only been offered solutions like xenophobia.

>>Lammy+P91
Which problem is xenophobia a solution for?

>>Burnin+qh
Strawman, but no, it isn't my only measure.

>>bredre+4e
Just a follow-up, that Trump not only refused to condemn white supremacy during the debate tonight, he told Proud Boys to "stand back and stand by."

>>bredre+MD1
To reiterate my original point, Proud Boys claim to not be for white supremacy.

It's of course possible they still are. But it makes this whole discourse pretty weird.

>>ntspln+du1
I didn't say it was a good solution or one I would ever offer myself, but I think a lot of the young-white-male-to-alt-right pipeline falls in to this when nobody else seems willing to hear them out except to tell them which ethnic group to blame.

>>Burnin+UJ2
White supremacists often claim not to be for white supremacy, because it's not a good "look" in the mainstream.

But the Proud Boys absolutely are at the very least adjacent. With a decent dash of misogyny thrown in.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/grou...