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1. perl4e+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-07-07 23:27:05
>It started out with universal condemnation of a murder committed by the police in Minnesota

This is revisionist, though, isn't it? And in a way that specifically eliminates the meaning of the protests. The protests started before the officers were charged, I believe. And while it may not be reasonable to expect the arrests to happen instantly, it's also reasonable that people doubted it would happen at all.

Assuming you mean well and all, this specific wording could nevertheless be interpreted as a dog whistle. It triggers some peoples' political immune system.

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2. Animal+Y2[view] [source] 2020-07-07 23:52:40
>>perl4e+(OP)
ELI5: What is the dog whistle in the quoted sentence? And how is it a dog whistle?
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3. Animat+id[view] [source] 2020-07-08 02:04:19
>>perl4e+(OP)
(Moved up in the thread)
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4. perl4e+Ad[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-07-08 02:07:13
>>Animat+id
I wish you wouldn't respond to my comment and only engage with what I quoted. Why not reply to the parent?
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5. Animat+Od[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-07-08 02:11:24
>>perl4e+Ad
Indentation adjusted.
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6. perl4e+0g[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-07-08 02:42:38
>>Animal+Y2
"started out...universal"

Those two words seem to express what I think is a crucial falsehood, and it works for selective communication (dog whistling) if some people get cognitive dissonance for it and others don't. We have me as an example of the former and you as an example of the latter.

I'm not saying it's intentional, but it raises hackles for me.

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7. justin+Is[view] [source] 2020-07-08 05:40:23
>>perl4e+(OP)
> Assuming you mean well and all, this specific wording could nevertheless be interpreted as a dog whistle. It triggers some peoples' political immune system.

It never occurred to me that that rayiner might have been using some kind of dog whistle in his reply to me. It would be rather out of character, and yours seems like a needlessly uncharitable interpretation of his comment.

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8. Animal+jr1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-07-08 15:39:08
>>perl4e+0g
I'm still not seeing it. What's the crucial falsehood? Why does it give you cognitive dissonance?
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9. perl4e+3z1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-07-08 16:27:43
>>Animal+jr1
Floyd was killed on Monday. According to the Wikipedia page on the protests, they began the following day, escalated to riots and burning a police station down. Chauvin was arrested on Friday.

So it is not true that everyone agreed from the beginning as it took a week to get to the point where everyone went "oh shit this is serious".

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10. perl4e+tB1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-07-08 16:42:03
>>justin+Is
That's why I used the qualifiers and suggested it was unintentional, in order to scrupulously follow HN guidelines. No response seems forthcoming.
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11. Animal+gS1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-07-08 18:12:19
>>perl4e+3z1
I think it's fair to say that there was almost universal condemnation from day one, from just about everyone except the Minneapolis city government. And so the protests started out as a demand for justice from Minneapolis. They later transformed into a wider protest against police violence generally.
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12. perl4e+Sh2[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-07-08 21:05:17
>>Animal+gS1
I happened to read a story today about someone arrested for punching a police dog in Houston. It took one day for them to be charged, and that was because they went to the hospital first.
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