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1. azhu+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-24 03:41:53
As a younger person, I agree, it is very disappointing. I would've guessed YC more prescient than to not realize there are tectonic cultural shifts heavily worth deep discussion happening.

I've noticed that sometimes, when people rise through ranks or otherwise mature in the world of business, they become disconnected from regular humanity and forget that emotions are real signals.

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2. free_r+D[view] [source] 2020-06-24 03:45:57
>>azhu+(OP)
(since this whole story is flagged)

As an older person, this is another iteration of the same shit and unfortunately nothing will change.

Part of the reason it won't change is that a bunch of upper-class white people try to make it all about their sociological theories instead of the really simple premise of "cops aren't accountable and that's not ok". They're spending their effort going after Scott Alexander, who's generally on their side on this stuff, for his insufficient group loyalty. It's a total self-own, constantly from these people, and it plays right into the cops' hands.

We're up against a lot of resistance and there's no room for selfishness like that.

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3. gnusty+zW[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-24 13:09:52
>>free_r+D
Yea anti-racism is a modern religion. It's counterproductive, and I expect a net-negative backlash than useful reform and change. No longer is it ok to affirm the human dignity and the equality of minorities. Racism is assumed globally so the question now becomes how is a person instantiating racism, not if a person is instantiating racism. It's screwed up and bizarre.
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4. zozbot+ae1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-24 14:55:16
>>gnusty+zW
It's especially screwed up and bizarre because this whole fuzzy, religious outlook thoroughly obscures the relevance of real, actual, systemic racism in the workings of institutions like criminal justice (including policing) in the United States. Here you have the clearest argument for systemic racism being a real dynamic even in a developed, largely-free country like the U.S. (and presumably it's no coincidence that CRT, from which we get this notion in the first place, originated from a subfield of legal studies), and yet you probably wouldn't know this from looking at the progressive debate on this issue, which simply sticks to its meaningless, mindless religious tropes. Quite mind-boggling.
5. dang+Yr2[view] [source] 2020-06-24 20:06:09
>>azhu+(OP)
That might be a possible explanation, except the facts are the opposite: HN has had dozens of extensive discussions about these topics, with tens of thousands of posts. The claim that they've been suppressed or ignored is beyond wrong—they are the most discussed topics in the last month. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23624962 for an extreme list of examples.

I always ask myself how people arrive at these perceptions in the first place, and what makes them so sure that they're right that they will make rage posts about it on e.g. Twitter without even a small effort to find out the truth. Any ideas? Here are my theories: (1) we are much more likely to notice the things we dislike, and to weight them much more heavily, than the things we like or agree with—so people on all sides end up feeling like this community is against them; (2) everyone always feels like the stories they care the most about are under-represented on HN, no matter how well-represented they actually are—this is an artifact of frontpage space being so scarce.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

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