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> There are no bad apples here

I don't understand. You're saying that individual police members are not at fault for their actions? That the police institution is rotten (barrel) but stops at the individual officer (apple)?

I 100% agree that the barrel is rotten, but there are plenty of bad individuals as a result of the barrel being rotten for so long.

A way to test this, change the 'barrel' and see which 'apples' stick around. i.e. if all apples are good changing the barrel doesn't result in difference in apples just the apples' actions.

We're already seeing #bluflu, walk outs, resignations because in some specific areas of the country, the barrel is being changed out piece by piece.

I disagree that apples are not bad. Lots of them are. It'll be a painful transition, but it will be one for better if we can keep it up.

>>irjust+(OP)
No, the parent is saying that calling police criminals masks the fundamental twisted nature of the justice system. Judging by their words, they condemn the police as criminals, but also condemn a 'justice' system that allows their deeds to remain legal. The barrel is rotten, the apples are rotten, so let's throw it all out and try again, is how I interpret their statement.

>>arbitr+tg
I mean you and I are saying the same thing it sounds like, but that sounds decidedly different than what the comment I was replying to was saying.

>>irjust+(OP)
Of course individual police officers are at fault, but it's also the entire system that is rotten. The system creates these rotten police officers, encourages and protects them, and allowed them to spread the rot.

>>irjust+(OP)
You're driving the metapthor too far, I honestly don't get your point. Are you're saying we shouldn't touch the institution of police and just replace the individual police members?

To my knowledge, that is what has been done until now - and it evidently didn't work.

>>xg15+751
> You're driving the metapthor too far

I'm just trying to understand what the parent comment said because I honestly am confused.