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1. sidlls+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-23 19:36:02
I can't second the GPs post hard enough. Police tend to abuse the poor much more often than they help. When they are there to help it's usually a zero-sum proposition: one poor person, usually a non-white, is gonna get a beat down at the hands of "justice" far out of proportion to whatever transgression against another poor person they may be guilty of.

I grew up poor, white, in a neighborhood with non-whites (black, asian, and hispanic). None of us was safe from the police, though whites were in marginally less danger generally.

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2. woeiru+Z8[view] [source] 2020-06-23 20:19:41
>>sidlls+(OP)
I understand that the police need to be reformed, and that they disproportionately police the poor. There are much better options than withdrawing them from all poor neighborhoods though. As we have seen time and time again, when the police are impotent, someone else will step up into the void to provide security. Typically, that's either organized crime, or (worse) vigilante justice. The net result is always the same though: the people living in those communities are always worse off.

Edit: I guess I should propose a solution instead of just railing against this idea. How about we: 1 - end the war on drugs, and 2 - fundamentally address poverty for once in this country.

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3. sidlls+w01[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-24 01:50:25
>>woeiru+Z8
Both of those things would help substantially, but it's not the entire problem. One of the core problems is that police have essentially been militarized. Their purpose isn't to serve the public trust, it's to engage in the control of an occupied population. Their purpose to ensure the most likely segment of the populace to take to the streets doesn't.

That's why all this crying over law and order in response to the protests is kind of hilarious. Their heavy handed tactics have backfired hard, and I have no sympathy for any of them. I feel for the police the same way I'd feel for an occupying army facing resistance.

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