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1. asjw+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-23 18:39:32
Well, both of the previous answers prove my point

US is a a dangerous country and the police is not doing a good job at all

If there are so many homicides, who should prevent them?

If after killing a hundred people a month (by shooting at them, I presented only the numbers of those killed by a police shooting) they can't even make a dent on the (horrible) numbers, it means they are doing a very bad job.

Tertium non datur

The mob kills less people here.

And we have at least two of the main five criminal organizations in the entire world.

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2. WillPo+ki[view] [source] 2020-06-23 19:58:35
>>asjw+(OP)
How do you know they aren't making a dent in the numbers? You don't know, and can't know, the counter factual. One anecdote though, police are doing less policing right now in cities like Chicago, and the the outcome is not looking good.

At least 106 people shot, 14 fatally, in Chicago weekend violence

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-week...

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3. chines+ip[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-23 20:35:03
>>WillPo+ki
It's pretty easy to say when your stats are 10 times worse than a similar developed country and look more like a developing country where warlords are in charge

Or, in US police is at war

Which is equally bad

EDIT: to give more context

If poverty rate in US was worse than in Nigeria, people would say that something went horribly wrong

Homicide rate in US is actually 1.5 times worse than Nigeria and two times worse than Uganda and Congo

4. michae+SE[view] [source] 2020-06-23 21:54:17
>>asjw+(OP)
Using the pretext of traffic stops as an excuse to search vehicles for small amounts of drugs and then shooting people reaching for their wallets doesn't do much to prevent murders.

Police murders aren't meaningfully correlated with crime prevention.

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