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1. bdamm+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-22 20:37:23
It's impolite to bring that up because OF COURSE there are more violent crimes committed by a group that has been systematically discriminated against for hundreds of years. What did you expect? So, what should we take away from that? Well, we should expect everyone to receive the same treatment from government organizations (and many non-government organizations) that deliver services to people, without bias. Just because black people may commit more violent crimes as an adjusted ratio among black people compared to other ethnicities, is not a reason to treat a specific individual who happens to be black any differently from an individual who happens to not be black. The complaint of "black lives matter" is that there is a pattern of police abuse towards non-violent black people. So while you may be right in saying that there are more police interactions with black people than with other ethnicities, you are not right in saying that justifies the disparity in how peaceful individuals are profiled and abused. In fact, your reasoning perpetuates that injustice.
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2. waffle+C4[view] [source] 2020-06-22 20:56:31
>>bdamm+(OP)
> The complaint of "black lives matter" is that there is a pattern of police abuse towards non-violent black people.

Again I have yet to see any convincing data that supports this. There's a marketed list of names of victims, some with video footage, but I can also show you names and video footage of non-violent victims of other races being killed by police.

I certainly support police reform (within the bounds of common sense), and continuing to try to lift black folks up, who I agree have been systematically discriminated against for hundreds of years. But doing it under false pretenses has already opened up a Pandora's Box of racist moral panic when it's simply not there.

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3. bdamm+Hj[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-22 22:11:07
>>waffle+C4
Hmm. Ok, there's a march on Washington being organized by Al Sharpton for families of people that have been killed while in police custody. Such a march is possible because there are so many. What do you think the ethnic makeup of that group will be?

What pretense are you saying is false, exactly? That there is a pattern of police abuse towards non-violent black people? It's patently silly. Black people have "the talk". White people don't have "the talk". We have videos of obvious injustice and racism popping up all the time, and the one-two punch of Ahmaud Arbery and George Floyd being killed by people who are obviously, deeply, racist and nothing being done about it (indicating a severely dysfunctional police organization) catalyzed the "moral panic", but there's no such epidemic of videos showing white people being abused. Why? Because there is no such epidemic, and it is racist.

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