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So-called Black Lives Matter costs black lives by making policing less effective. The "Ferguson Effect" has been documented. Recent headline: "104 shot, 14 fatally, over Father’s Day weekend in Chicago" https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/6/20/21297470/chicag... .

>>Boston+(OP)
What do you mean by "making policing less effective"?

>>alexil+36
He means policing that results in increased homicide rates and reduced homicide clearance rates.

Don't you want to solve crimes and put murderers in jail? And scare others away from delinquency?

>>SamRei+p8
Ha! Police in the U.S. are hilariously bad at solving crimes. Even murders are solved at less than a 50% rate in many cities.

>>Boston+(OP)
You missed a step.

Police brutality and systemic racism caused a group to rise up and demand justice. The populace took notice, a movement was formed (BLM) and overall trust in law enforcement was lowered. Crime rose as a result.

It's not "so called" Black Lives Matter, it's "so called" equal and just law enforcement that caused the The "Ferguson Effect"

>>psycho+Fd
Less than 50%???? Ha! Try closer to 10% in Chicago. Yes I want murders solved and think there should be someone doing that job. However, the police aren't doing that so why help them with whatever it is that they are doing.

>>psycho+Fd
I don't find that hilarious. Anyway, if you have a “no snitch culture” you can't expect the police to have an easy time at finding the perpetrator.

>>alexil+of
A large issue is that people refuse to help them. How do you solve a crime if no there are witnesses willing to talk...

>>SamRei+p8
Yeah, and arrest and imprison some black folks who smoke pot making it look on paper that the crime is reduced big time. I am all for reducing crime and making the country safer for everyone. I don't think policing it more is the answer though. Going to the root of the problem is a whole lot more effective in the long term. Some reforms are clearly needed.

>>google+Ug
That's the problem in Chicago. CPD has destroyed whatever trust the community had in them.

>>Boston+(OP)
Roland G Fryer's recent work shows that for every investigation over a white cop shooting a black person allegedly wrongly, 179 extra people die due to the severe reduction in policing (up to 90%!) over the next two years. Roland G Fryer is a black economics professor at Harvard. His papers are working papers for the National Bureau of Economic Research, and as such not peer reviewed. When he discovered in 2016 that (if you do the math properly) police are actually more likely to shoot a white person in a life-or-death situation, he said it was "the most suprising result of my career."

>>mikedi+gk
I found that work fascinating, and I’ve linked to it here before. Your summary of the finding is misleading.

>for every investigation over a white cop shooting a black person allegedly

This is false. Fryer saw the effect when investigations were in response to social media outrage. In fact, he called out that the effect is not seen when investigation are started in response to complaints through the regular channels.

>>bitcur+Pl
I stand corrected.

>>google+Ug
How do you get witnesses to talk when they don't trust the police to protect them and serve the community's interests?