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1. cm2187+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-22 12:27:04
From a number point of view, you should be more worried about common crime than terrorism from any side.
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2. walrus+c[view] [source] 2020-06-22 12:29:07
>>cm2187+(OP)
From a pure numbers/statistics point of view a great deal more people die from slipping and falling or drowning in their bathtub every year than are killed by either form of terrorism in the USA.

But we still should take efforts to reduce that, whether it's by building showers with textured floors and efforts to counteract terrorism...

https://www.seattlepi.com/national/article/Someone-drowns-in...

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3. some_f+l[view] [source] 2020-06-22 12:30:39
>>cm2187+(OP)
For relevant reasons, I'm more concerned about having my hard-earned money seized through civil asset forfeiture than my house being robbed by some random criminal.
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4. ATsch+s1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-22 12:41:32
>>some_f+l
Especially when the people forfeiting your money are also the one criminalizing the drugs that the random criminal needs to rob your house to be able to afford, lacking any support for their conditions elsewhere because that money is put into police budgets instead.

(It's also worthwhile in discussions about "crime" to remember that it's a very loaded term. For example, wage theft numbers absolutely eclipse burglary, yet those are rarely what we think about when we hear "crime")

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5. save_f+P1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-22 12:44:49
>>walrus+c
However, falling in the bathtub isn’t ideologically driven or at risk of increasing dramatically based on political shifts.

We don’t take terrorism or white supremacy seriously because it poses an imminent threat to everyone right now, we take it seriously because it has the potential to put hundreds of thousands to millions of lives at risk in the future if left unaddressed.

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6. cm2187+S1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-22 12:45:00
>>walrus+c
Can't access your link from the EU but fully agree with your point. I did an analysis in June 2015 in the EU, but I am sure it still holds now, by comparing the number of deaths from eurostats for just the year 2011, to all cumulative terrorist attacks in the EU from 1958 per wikipedia:

https://zbpublic.blob.core.windows.net/public/terrorism2015/...

Also modern terrorism is bad but we forget that far-left and state sponsored terrorism was worse in the 80s (numbers as of 2017):

number of attacks over time: https://zbpublic.blob.core.windows.net/public/terrorism2015/...

number of deaths: https://zbpublic.blob.core.windows.net/public/terrorism2015/...

And this is in the EU. In the US I am sure the numbers would be completely drown in the numbers for common crime.

7. IfOnly+th[view] [source] 2020-06-22 14:24:30
>>cm2187+(OP)
The idea of terrorism is to fight an asymmetric conflict with methods that affect many who aren't immediate victims, by instilling fear, i. e. terrorising them.
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8. kmonse+lk[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-22 14:38:44
>>IfOnly+th
So the “correct” response is to not play their game and not play along with the tactics. Very likely you will never be affected of terror so don’t spend your life worrying about it.

Police should worry a bit about it of course.

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9. thomqu+pl[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-22 14:44:07
>>save_f+P1
I am sorry to say this but white supremecy does not have the potential to kill millions. It's like saying gang violence has the potential to kill millions.
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10. walrus+gt[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-22 15:26:02
>>thomqu+pl
Except that within the memory of people still alive to witness it, it killed approximately 6 million people in concentration camps...?
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11. save_f+0u[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-22 15:30:12
>>thomqu+pl
Nazism, which formed the ideological foundation of modern white supremacy, killed millions just a few generations ago. To argue that white supremacy doesn't have the potential to kill millions simply ignores not-to-distant history. We cannot ignore what has already happened many times before.
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