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1. SilasX+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-20 21:01:10
>I likely break dozens of laws/ordinances every day and I'm very positive you do as well, without even knowing it.

Okay but then isn't that the real problem? Of not regularly weeding out laws against things that people don't really feel need to be banned? It's kind of clumsy to take the approach of, "We're going to keep dubious laws on the books, and also have ultra-random, haphazard enforcement of all laws regardless of how merited."

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2. arrrg+v1[view] [source] 2020-06-20 21:15:19
>>SilasX+(OP)
Both are problems.

People who abuse that situation and useless laws on the books.

3. notato+J1[view] [source] 2020-06-20 21:17:15
>>SilasX+(OP)
yes, that is a real problem and it should be solved. but in the absence of a solution to that problem, shutting down tools that make it easy to take advantage of that problem to be racist and/or annoying is a decent starting point.
4. baddox+32[view] [source] 2020-06-20 21:20:45
>>SilasX+(OP)
The problem is that when everyone is guilty of something, the government can pick and choose who it punishes, through prosecutorial discretion, selective policing, and other means.
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5. TheSpi+c2[view] [source] 2020-06-20 21:21:37
>>SilasX+(OP)
We can do both.

Non-enforcement of bollocks laws is a feature.

Most people will not ever interact with law enforcement over bollocks laws.

There will always be bollocks laws.

Your wider point stands though, we should do some pruning, but that takes time, whereas non-enforcement is instantaneous.

Do both.

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6. SilasX+o3[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-20 21:30:35
>>TheSpi+c2
Yeah, but "bollocks" is a four-letter word (metaphorically) -- the feature doesn't first establish consensus on what laws are bollocks. What you call a bollocks law, I might call "reasonable one that ensures people aren't screaming outside my window at 1am".
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7. jquery+i8[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-20 22:09:28
>>SilasX+o3
You’re absolutely right, I don’t understand why you’re being downvoted.
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8. cutemo+Md[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-20 22:54:16
>>baddox+32
So the police and government want to keep the broken laws
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9. syshum+2m[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-21 00:28:02
>>TheSpi+c2
>>Most people will not ever interact with law enforcement over bollocks laws.

That is actually a very bad thing, and once the people in power abuse

If few people encounter "bollocks" laws then there is no outrage over their enforcement, therefore if you piss off the wrong person in government suddenly they go over your life with a fine tooth comb and you have 100 "bollocks" charges and your life is ruined but since you are just one person there is no so speak out for you.

>There will always be bollocks laws.

That is a bollocks position and one that can be solved (in part) with mandatory sunset of all laws. Every Law, Regulation, and policy should have to be affirmed by the legislature at minimum every 20 years if not more often. If not is ceases to exists

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