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1. aaronc+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-18 03:28:56
Well we do want arsonists brought to justice, don't we?
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2. mindsl+72[view] [source] 2020-06-18 03:53:51
>>aaronc+(OP)
Sure, but let's prioritize murder and aggravated assault before property crime.
replies(2): >>markha+J2 >>jeffda+d4
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3. markha+J2[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-18 04:04:31
>>mindsl+72
how much property crime is worth prosecuting? it's not as if we can't do it all.
replies(1): >>mindsl+z61
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4. jeffda+d4[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-18 04:26:11
>>mindsl+72
Arson is not generally considered a property crime, because it is a major threat to public safety.
replies(2): >>Agentl+B7 >>kerkes+YP
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5. Agentl+B7[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-18 05:16:35
>>jeffda+d4
The Swedish word for arson is even "mordbrand", literally "murder fire".
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6. AllanH+Vb[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-18 06:13:39
>>Agentl+B7
That’s pretty metal.
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7. kerkes+YP[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-18 13:14:04
>>jeffda+d4
Well, when we discuss arson in the abstract, that will be a relevant thing to bring up, but we're not talking about how arson is generally considered, we're talking about how this arson should be considered. This arson was the burning of two police cars which didn't spread and clearly wasn't intended to.

Compare to when arsonists burned down 61 West Philadelphia homes, killing 5 children. That's a threat to public safety, but the arsonists were never charged, because the arsonists were police. That's a threat to public safety.

Compare to systemic racism, repeated kidnapping and harassment, and over and over again, cops straight-up murdering black people. That's a threat to public safety.

Let's be clear here, you aren't concerned about justice or removing threats to public safety if your biggest concern here is the torching of two unoccupied police cars.

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8. mindsl+z61[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-18 15:10:56
>>markha+J2
These protests started over a spate of unprosecuted murders, so it does seem we are having trouble doing it all.
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