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1. komali+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-17 22:31:44
The war against police brutality, of course.

Kneeling didn't work, soooo...

Expected respondes: pass a law. Protest peacefully. Stand in front of city hall with assault rifles. Vote for (some centrist).

Just because you may not like how someone is dealing with the fact that they could be killed with no recourse by cops because of the color of their skin, doesn't mean their methods are invalid or even irrational.

The classic star wars question - is Luke Skywalker a rebel hero, or a terrorist threat to order? Before the Empire blew up an entire planet to make a point, it was a fairly valid question.

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2. m0zg+H1[view] [source] 2020-06-17 22:44:55
>>komali+(OP)
Please explain how a white woman torching a police cruiser advances _any_ goals other than increasing the dramatically underrepresented white female prison population. Please also mention which other types of crime you consider conducive to rectifying the situation in any meaningful way.
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3. coffee+X1[view] [source] 2020-06-17 22:46:39
>>komali+(OP)
To expand on your explanation -- not only did kneeling not work, it was roundly mocked and derided by even progressives.

It turns out, Americans pay attention when you start smashing property and taking flatscreen TVs.

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4. coffee+O2[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-17 22:51:55
>>m0zg+H1
How would you feel if someone set your car on fire? Probably like someone doesn't appreciate you very much, right? Well this is how they want the city to feel about their police force.

It also demonstrates that by and large, police don't prevent chaos and property damage. Most of the time, people simply decide not to do this, and when they decide they want to, police are largely powerless to stop them. This should lead others to more broadly question whether police are capable of stopping other bad actors, rather than merely reacting to them.

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5. jethro+V2[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-17 22:52:46
>>m0zg+H1
Not a full study, but when people were kneeling to draw attention, it poled at about 30% for 60% against 10% undecided. When people burned down the police precinct in Minneapolis and documented the unwarranted police violence, it polled at about 60% for and 30% against.

I don't know why, but as a general rule with people, if it bleeds, it leads. And that's what's worked here.

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6. fzeror+l3[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-17 22:55:04
>>m0zg+H1
The opposite side of the equation is how does the police slashing tires and breaking civilian property advance their goal beyond dramatically increasing the levels of anger towards them?

If she's going to jail for torching a car, then will the officers that committed similar property damage also be going to jail?

7. RcouF1+19[view] [source] 2020-06-17 23:40:47
>>komali+(OP)
> Luke Skywalker a rebel hero, or a terrorist threat to order

Given episodes 7-9, Luke is a terroristic threat to order. After destroying the existing order, he failed to establish anything better and it quickly devolved into what we see in 7. And he also failed to kill the main villain which meant that all the chaos and death that he was responsible for had no offsetting good.

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