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Official government numbers (the full report can be found here: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-..., race starts at page 15 of the PDF):

- Percentage of adults affected by hate crime by ethnicity 2015/16 to 2017/18: White 0.1, Mixed 0.5, Asian 1.1, Black/African/Caribean/Black British 0.6 and other 1.0

- Same, by religion: Chistian 0.1, Buddhist 0.1, Hindu 0.7, Muslim 1.5, other 0.5, none 0.1

All adults: 0.2

Conclusion: White christian are by any number underaffected by hate crime in the UK

Additonal numbers form London's MOPAC for victims of racist hate cimes in the 12 months up to June 2017: 56% male, 30% black, Asian 25%, White-North European 25%. Obviously, percentages cannot be summed up here. Again, whites are underaffected. perosnal view: Numbers in London might be higher than elsewhere for whites, I don't have a source for that, so.

Anyway, both numbers are an order of magnitude away from the 50% you mentioned.

>>hef198+(OP)
The figures you quote are the percentage of victims by ethnicity. So, for example, the number of black people who have been victims of hate crime. I was referring to the total number of victims by race. I suspect the latter number was in my memory because of how these, and similar, figures have been reported in the past. E.g. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/oct/22/ukcrime.race.

Some back of the envelope calculations suggest that my 'roughly half' is correct given the figures you provide. Of 1000 people in the UK, 920 will be white, and 80 non-white. Given the rate of white hate crime victimisation you gave, .92 white people in that 1000 will be a victim of hate crime. If we lump all the non-white people together and use the highest rate of victimisation (Asian:1.1%) that gives us .88 non-white victims.

The comment I replied to claimed that racism against white people does not exist in the western world. That claim does not appear to be true.

>>scoobl+db
Murder =/= hate crime, so murder has nothing to do with racism against white people. by the way, the comment was mine.

Forget back-off-envelop calculations, take official numbers. And that is 25% for London.

>>hef198+Md
Racially motivated murders, which the article is about, are hate crimes. As such, they are prosecuted as hate crimes in the UK.

The calculation I made was from official figures. A smaller percentage of a larger demographic can make up a large percentage of the total.

Even if you want to ignore every number except your 25%, those white victims of racially motivated hate crimes presumably exist, do they not?

>>scoobl+Pg
I go with official government numbers first in cases like that. period. And what makes you think police forgot to include the murders you mentioned in the official numbers?

Not some calculation I cannot follw. Not press reports. And unless you go and read the official report (there is even a spreadsheet, so you can use prime sources directly), I gonna stop now.

>>hef198+0l
The police did include the murders in the official statistics . I think the problem here is that you don't understand the data you quoted and how it relates to the demographics of the UK.