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1. chrisj+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-17 10:07:30
You can't look at percentage of population but percentage of who commit crimes.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

> Blacks were disproportionately represented as both homicide victims and off enders. Th e victimization rate for blacks (27.8 per 100,000) was 6 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000). Th e off ending rate for blacks (34.4 per 100,000) was almost 8 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000) (table 1)

From the article

> A 2015 study by Harvard professor Roland G. Fryer, Jr. found that there was no racial bias in the use of lethal police force between black and white suspects in similar situations. The study did, however, find that blacks and Hispanics are significantly more likely to experience non-lethal use of force.

> A 2016 study published in the journal Injury Prevention concluded that African Americans, Native Americans and Latinos were more likely to be stopped by police compared to Asians and whites, but found that there was no racial bias in the likelihood of being killed or injured after being stopped

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2. danShu+Gg[view] [source] 2020-06-17 12:50:17
>>chrisj+(OP)
See my other comment[0], you're making two separate claims here. Why blacks are disproportionately killed by police is a conversation that might be worth having, but it doesn't change the fact that they are disproportionately killed.

As an analogy, a truck driver might be less likely to crash or be killed on any specific drive than I am. However, a truck driver also drives a lot more than I do, so a truck driver is still more likely overall to die in a vehicle crash than I am.

In the same way, even if we lived in a world where blacks were less likely to be killed in an individual police interaction, that doesn't change the fact that a black person is still more likely overall to be killed by a police officer than I am.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23547106

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3. Jungle+bF[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-17 15:03:43
>>danShu+Gg
Then the problem is the truck driver is driving too much. He should drive less.
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4. danShu+SM[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-17 15:43:26
>>Jungle+bF
Which is why we're seeing calls by protestors to reduce overall police presence in cities and to instead migrate various police responsibilities onto social workers with more directly applicable training.

Naming issues aside, reducing the amount of time the 'truck driver' spends on the road is one of the biggest goals of the "defund the police" movement. But again, that's a separate discussion.

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