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1. taurat+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-17 08:23:32
I'm not even sure what you're saying here. The US literally imported slaves against their will from Africa and had slavery endowed into the constitution via the 3/5ths compromise. Then for literally 4 centuries they were beaten and oppressed and denied rights - literally jim crow laws were taken down only decades ago.

Its literally just talking about the US here. There's no projection elsewhere - this isn't just "minority rights", this is attempting to break away from a culture of systematic oppression that half the country up until last month didn't believe was a thing!

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2. blub+Sa[view] [source] 2020-06-17 10:19:43
>>taurat+(OP)
You said "most of it is showing white people that all the things that we've tried over the past 10, 20 years are clearly not working. There's little improvement in inclusiveness in traditional white/male dominated cultures, such as the engineering teams at FAANGs for instance."

The US is an immigration society where many white people from countries which weren't involved in US slavery and now they're all painted with the same brush. It's not reasonable for someone from say Russia to be attacked for the deeds of American slave drivers hundreds of years ago. And as far as I know white immigrants were strongly discriminated against in the US in the past two centuries.

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3. taurat+0a3[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-18 09:11:38
>>blub+Sa
We as Americans live in a society were responsible for. We as managers, owners and employees are responsible for the culture of the companies we own.

A Russian who moved here in 1998 certainly didn’t have anything to do with racism. But he is participating in a society that claims to be a just one, in which he will get preferential treatment over a Black person just because the color of his skin. Is that his fault? No. Is it his moral responsibility as a participant in society to help create a more just society? Yes.

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4. the_om+gU3[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-18 15:43:03
>>taurat+0a3
That sounds like some cult thinking. Collective responsibility by just doing nothing? By virtue of your genetics at birth ?

Then you're responsible for the climate problem, the extermination of native Americans, the Vietnamese death, the Iraqi deaths, etc... ? From what you preached you can only answer "yes" to all these. Then : what do you do to make amends for all those horrible crimes?

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5. blub+gDj[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-24 05:59:02
>>taurat+0a3
The US has a deeply unjust society and with with the exception of some periods after WWII always has had. The US does not have any moral authority to tell other countries or people how they should deal with racism and very limited moral authority in general in the past years of the Trump presidency.

Other countries and people need not and should not accept sharing the blame for US sins against black people.

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