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This is cool - I think smartphones are are best defence against violent police oversteps. Now everyone has a camera with them and we are seeing the results. Democratisation of surveillance.

>>bb123+(OP)
It's a neat idea until a law is passed forcing you to hand over a "IoT device" to the sheriff in charge.

>>bb123+(OP)
I think voting for the right people is probably more effective.

>>aaronb+Y2
Only if you believe change comes top-down.

>>bb123+(OP)
> This is cool

Indeed it is. Why install CCTV cameras when everyone is their own camera-person. Solves the low quality camera problem and multi-angle footage. However...

> Democratisation of surveillance.

Mixed with social media, it's now more like self-surveillance. This is just the start and Nextdoor neighbourhoods take this to dystopian levels. But one clever man once compared this to 'Stalin's Dream'. If that's his dream, then it will soon be everyone's nightmare.

>>aaronb+Y2
8 years of Obama didn't do much for police brutality.

>>slap+u4
They kept on pushing the bodycams though... now, the police force use it to their advantage

>>rvz+c4
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19529921

>>bb123+(OP)
Nope, the law is. Siri wont protect you from being killed. Nor adjusting your behavior. Only the law can be used to overturn this program. But don't hold your breath. They are still killing 4 per day, without any oversight.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/us/us-police-floyd-protests-c...

>>double+V1
Doesn't matter if your device is designed in such a way that it can stream content in a clandestine way, so that it's hard to verify whether it is or not, while sleeping. Of course you can always bypass things like this by starting the whole interaction by grabbing the phone and placing it somewhere else, but that would imply intention which may be even more damaging in a future court case if it could be proven from the phone that it was removed (which you can if it was already recording and streaming) -- and I'd like to think that most people can agree across party lines that police shootings do happen in the "heat of the moment" rather than as planned out homicides.

It also sure wouldn't hurt with mandatory police cameras, it would help police as well as long as they behave, and auditing an official like that shouldn't be controversial.

>>bb123+(OP)
Re: the ‘democratisation of surveillance’: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sousveillance

>>ekianj+14
This is a candle best burnt at both ends.

>>slap+u4
There’s been a good number of responses to this very point over the last 24 hours. Here’s one from a journalist, Daniel Dale, whose perspective I really like because he’s Canadian, and therefore is less wrapped up emotionally in American politics.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/17/politics/fact-check-trump-oba...