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Calling ICE nazis is idiotic.

>>google+(OP)
Not too long ago the company where I worked was having a similar debate concerning services provided (through an intermediary) to ICE.

One particular facet in the discussion that stuck with me more than the rest was a comment by a co-worker who was visiting from the Berlin office.

They talked briefly about small monuments on the street by their home marking the spots where people were arrested and taken to concentration camps as their time and place of death. They pointed out that in many cases those dates are in the mid 1930s. Up to 10 years before the discovery and liberation of the death camps.

Calling ICE nazis (while still hopefully hyperbole) is not necessarily an unfounded comparison.

>>shuntr+ka
If ICE becomes a nazis then America will have also have become the same. I don't think it's fair or makes sense to single them out. Anyway, dealing with illegal immigration has popular support.

>>google+Uc
> dealing with illegal immigration has popular support.

You presume that "dealing with illegal immigration has popular support" is the same as "the public broadly supports arbitrary cruelty to illegal immigrants".

The US population (~80%) appears to think "dealing with illegal immigration" should mean "provide a path to citizenship" [1]

1. https://news.gallup.com/poll/1660/immigration.aspx

> I don't think it's fair or makes sense to single them out.

ICE has earned all of the scrutiny they get. ICE does not seem to care about the welfare of the people in its care [2]. It does not seem to care about US immigration law [3]. Or the rights of legal immigrants [4]. ICE employees say ICE prioritizes rounding up law abiding families over criminal investigations [5].

[2] https://theintercept.com/2018/04/11/immigration-detention-se...

[3] https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-11-15/asylum-off...

[4] https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/01/ice-is-out-of-co...

[5] https://www.texasobserver.org/ice-hsi-letter-kirstjen-nielse...

>>shuntr+ka
These monuments are called Stolpersteine ("Stumbling Stones"): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolperstein

There are tens of thousands of them now, every one of them installed by the artist who originally came up with the idea.

They are installed in front of their last place of residence. So it's really decentralised, and the realisation that the Holocaust happened in your street (or even to people living in the house you now life in) is powerful.

>>gerbal+Tl

  (~80%) appears to think "dealing with illegal immigration" should mean "provide a path to citizenship" [1]

You left out "... after fulfilling certain requirements"

Meanwhile, that exact same poll had 75% of respondents favoring "Hiring significantly more border patrol agents."