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Demonstrably and rather obviously untrue. They're violating the law in many instances, including but not limited to the cases of asylum seekers and current green card holders; it's just they're following the evil, xenophobic whims of the current political leadership, who are failing to hold themselves or ICE accountable to the rule of law, so they are, for the moment, getting away with their lawlessness. I hope we can change this with voting in new leadership, but I fear it may be too late.

Aside and personal observation: it's interesting how the same people so vigorously crying for "law and order" are rather particular about which laws they care about enforcing, and which they're willing to overlook. Of course I'm not the first to make this observation.

>>drunkp+(OP)
ICE arrests are significantly down under the current administration compared to the previous administration.

>>drunkp+(OP)
Given that the pictures of kids in cages came from before our current president was in office, this is the first time I've heard anyone call president Obama both evil and xenophobic.

>>zdragn+L3
I disliked the Obama administration’s stance on several policy issues, including immigration and his fondness for using drones, executive orders, and the secret powers of the state.

All of which and much more are significantly worse under the vile, toxic, xenophobic current administration.

But nice try at attempting to derail the conversation with some good old-fashioned whataboutism! Better luck next time!

>>ancore+S2
This omits the important fact that ICE arrests steeply decreased year–over–year for seven out of Obama’s eight years in office, while arrests have increased year–over–year for two of Trump’s three years [0]. That doesn’t exonerate Obama, but it does say something about the administration that a new president inherits.

[0] https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/03/02/how-border-...

>>ancore+S2
And why is that relevant? Age you assuming that most people in this thread liked Obama's immigration policies?

>>zdragn+L3
Every leader the country has had is trash. That doesn't detract from the fact that the current leadership has managed to lower and re-lower the bar. Consistently widening the window of what outrageous behavior is acceptable. At this point the office of the president is a no holds barred free-for-all and whoever occupies it next will be doing so with a precedent no near zero actionable oversight.