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1. karpie+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-15 16:41:04
This isn't people pushing their own political agenda; this is a consequence of the political stance they took. When a company takes a political stance, they should be held accountable for it.
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2. maga20+M[view] [source] 2020-06-15 16:43:47
>>karpie+(OP)
Agreed, playing politics for marketing purposes shouldn't be free.
3. johnce+92[view] [source] 2020-06-15 16:49:08
>>karpie+(OP)
How is protesting against police brutality is same as protesting against ICE? That sounds like partisanship. If you support one issue then you will also have to support other issues.
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4. coucha+K2[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-15 16:51:24
>>johnce+92
GP may have been referring to the political stand of taking on ICE as a customer. GitHub brass can pretend they're being apolitical, just as IBM did...
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5. coolre+h3[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-15 16:53:11
>>johnce+92
It's really not that different of an issue (black lives matter but Latino lives don't?); I think the word you're looking for is not partisanship but intersectionality.
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6. karpie+e4[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-15 16:55:31
>>johnce+92
Sure, and they're welcome to clarify how the police should be held accountable when applying force to citizens but should not be held accountable for applying force to non-citizens.

Or how certain human rights can be maintained for one group and not the other.

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7. vkou+h4[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-15 16:55:37
>>johnce+92
ICE inflicts something that seems an awful lot like police brutality on a large number of people. The Kafkaesque horrorshow that legal asylum seekers are subjected to is one of them. The conditions in which they hold people, in general, is another.

The lies and high pressure tactics they use to force people to sign away their rights are also concerning.

8. michae+l8[view] [source] 2020-06-15 17:10:53
>>karpie+(OP)
You can support BLM without having a stance on ICE, because BLM is part of a complex venn diagram of political beliefs and affiliations.

This is normal: Just because some republicans think evolution is a hoax, doesn't mean every republican does. Every large political organisation is actually a coalition of people with different beliefs that overlap enough to put them on the same side for now.

Hypothetically, maybe GitHub don't know much about racism, but they're very much opposed to police cruisers intentionally driving into pedestrian protesters.

That would mean they support the current protests, but as long as ICE aren't deliberately driving cars into people, they're not yet opposed to ICE.

9. throw_+lN[view] [source] 2020-06-15 20:12:45
>>karpie+(OP)
And that's exactly why most business don't(use not to) take public activist stances at first place, rightfully so.

Although right now since everybody is afraid to get cancelled on a whim, corporations are opening themselves to, and you are right in your logic, criticism for their lack of political activism.

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