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1. jmpman+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-12 13:54:35
I’ve always wondered, if a community like this were able to completely leave the US, and didn’t have to pay for the military, or the police, would they be able to fund their own demands for free healthcare, free college, etc? I’m going to guess that overall, the occupants are below the average income level of Seattle, but would they be able to afford the lifestyle they’re requesting?
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2. wombat+72[view] [source] 2020-06-12 14:11:32
>>jmpman+(OP)
I mean, they're setting up shop in the center of a city. They are building on top of everything they claim to not need.
3. danhar+V2[view] [source] 2020-06-12 14:16:06
>>jmpman+(OP)
Is "lifestyle" the most appropriate word you could choose for "access to healthcare and education"?
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4. fallin+13[view] [source] 2020-06-12 14:16:39
>>jmpman+(OP)
Remember too though that they would likely declare all property to be the property of the people of the zone, which means no rent to any landlords and no overhead going to owners of capital, plus no taxes going to the state, so they would be able to free up a lot of resources. The Zapatistas in Mexico have been quite successful at building a decent health care system out of nothing, despite being some of the poorest people in the world.
5. IG_Sem+26[view] [source] 2020-06-12 14:36:24
>>jmpman+(OP)
No. If they were lo leave they would take a proportional amount of debt with them, which would render their ability to do anything moot.

It would be a little USA with a foreign currency, all the debt and no effective means to defend itself, should it work the miracle and become successful.

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6. superd+nh[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-12 15:40:15
>>danhar+V2
How is that not appropriate?
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7. jmpman+NJ[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-12 18:19:26
>>danhar+V2
Each of those items have a cost associated with them, at least at a societal level, even if they are provided free to the end consumer. A doctor, even if providing free services in a completely altruistic manner, must eat and be housed, as do college professors. A society must choose how to allocate their resources. Based upon the CHAZ demands, they wish to have a society which provides healthcare and college. I would call that a lifestyle.

My question was, does there exist a sufficient productivity in the population in the CHAZ to provide those services to their population?

From Wikipedia: Lifestyle is the interests, opinions, behaviours, and behavioural orientations of an individual, group, or culture.

The demand for access to healthcare and education does seem to be the interest, opinion and behavior of this group.

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