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1. thu211+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-12 10:08:56
They don't exist? Why are there photos of them then?

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/conte...

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1271196018554494977...

The claims that these militias are extorting businesses doesn't come from "the right", it comes from claims by the local police chief.

Addressing the takeover of the area surrounding the Seattle Police Department’s abandoned East Precinct building, Chief Carmen Best said ... using air quotes, that police had heard reports of armed people “patrolling” the area, which she said was “very concerning.” “Especially because we don’t know who these people are,” she added. And she hinted that they may even be extorting local business owners and demanding local residents show identification.

Chief Carmen Best may be totally wrong or making that up. But knowing these sorts of things is part of her job, so to dismiss it would take something stronger than some mocking denial. Especially because this is exactly what always happens when police vacate an area. The result is not "no police", the result is that militias and mafias step in to do it themselves. But worse.

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2. ch+Im[view] [source] 2020-06-12 13:42:48
>>thu211+(OP)

    Chief Carmen Best may be totally wrong or making that up.
https://www.businessinsider.com/seattle-police-retract-claim...

As it turns out she was, in fact, wrong or making it up.

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3. seanmc+Vn[view] [source] 2020-06-12 13:49:50
>>thu211+(OP)
The SPD walked back those statements when they admitted there weren’t actually any reports of such things occurring. Really, I think the SPD was just listening to right wing news sources, who then used the SPD’s acknowledgement of their speculation as evidence in a circular way.

https://www.seattletimes.com/subscribe/signup-offers/?pw=red...

4. static+Lt[view] [source] 2020-06-12 14:29:24
>>thu211+(OP)
> But knowing these sorts of things is part of her job, so to dismiss it would take something stronger than some mocking denial.

On the contrary, if it comes from Seattle PD it's better to just assume it's not true.

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5. djsumd+2z[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-12 15:00:28
>>ch+Im
> "We've heard, anecdotally, reports of citizens and businesses being asked to pay a fee to operate within this area."

I dunno. She 'walked back' the statement. Maybe people were making that up to try to get the cops to retake the area? It could have also been absolutely true. Having lived in that area, I wouldn't put it past them.

Honestly, it's impossible to know at this point.

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6. ogre_c+mB[view] [source] 2020-06-12 15:12:09
>>thu211+(OP)
> these militias

It's one dude, every single post about the militias shows this exact dude in these exact clothes. One dude is not a militia. There are a bunch of stories about this guy apparently he's guarding all the entrances and still has time to extort local businesses. No wonder he doesn't have time to change clothes, he's one busy dude.

> But knowing these sorts of things is part of her job

Knowing that she has a massive vested interest in demonstrating that police are needed in the zone, I take everything she says with a massive grain of salt.

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7. seanmc+GE[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-12 15:31:58
>>djsumd+2z
The SPD was probably watching foxnews, reported what they were hearing on fox, which FoxNews then took as evidence that their reporting was accurate. There is a reason they call it an “echo chamber.”
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8. downer+5f1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-12 19:03:37
>>static+Lt
Or the governor, apparently.
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9. ogre_c+cI1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-12 21:53:56
>>djsumd+2z
> Honestly, it's impossible to know at this point.

What is possible to know is that she knew damned well that any statement like that would be repeated 10 times more than any later, retraction of those statements.

> Police chief Carmen Best walked back prior statements made by her own department, which have since circulated widely and attracted condemnation from conservative critics of the protesters.

Those same critics have almost certainly not retracted their comments based on her statements. She clearly understands how to effectively feed her biggest fans.

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