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1. onion2+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-11 07:38:15
Shouldn't you need more than, he was an asshole and the driver happened to be black to conclude that he is racist?

Police officers should be beyond reproach. Their behaviour should be exemplary. If an officer is harassing people that's already enough reason to question whether they're fit for the job, and if there's any doubt whether they're being racist or not then it should be on the officer to demonstrate that they're not (using their record, bodycam evidence, etc). The police have had decades of unquestioning respect from the public and they've abused that privilege. Now it's time for the police to earn that respect back.

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2. sfj+H4[view] [source] 2020-06-11 08:28:26
>>onion2+(OP)
> if there's any doubt whether they're being racist or not then it should be on the officer to demonstrate that they're not (using their record, bodycam evidence, etc).

He has no venue to respond. No one even accused him of being racist, besides you. How is he supposed to defend himself, come onto hacker news and write a reply?

The police dept released a statement said they'd review the video and take any action deemed necessary. What you would have them do?

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3. onion2+ye[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-11 10:02:05
>>sfj+H4
The police dept released a statement said they'd review the video and take any action deemed necessary. What you would have them do?

That, but with an independent third party instead of the police dept. Police are clearly not capable of policing themselves.

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4. eeZah7+7I[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-11 13:55:00
>>sfj+H4
> What you would have them do?

Stop murdering or otherwise harassing black people...?

Stop switching cameras off, stop blocking any attempt at creating accountability, stop working for the police.

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5. DuskSt+y91[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-11 16:36:24
>>eeZah7+7I
> Stop murdering or otherwise harassing black people...?

Quick question. How many black people did US police murder last year? Order of magnitude. How many would be few enough for you to say that the police have "stopped" - 100? 10? 1? 0?

My guess is that the actual number is a lot lower than you're thinking, even when counting unintentional things like "police officer made a mistake, shot innocent person" and "pig strangled someone a little too long". Not to say that that's excusable when it does occur, but...

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6. titzer+eKi[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-17 23:48:54
>>DuskSt+y91
> Not to say that that's excusable when it does occur, but...

The thing that goes after the but is called an "excuse".

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7. DuskSt+Fln[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-19 16:17:35
>>titzer+eKi
Funnily enough, nothing in my comment comes after the "but".
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