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Federal law enforcement are obligated to present printed ID cards identifying the officer and their agency. Anyone unwilling or unable to do so is an armed civilian in violation of DCs open carry laws, and the DC Metro Police should be notified.

>>mike_d+(OP)
The law obligates them to present ID, but they have refused and faced no consequences from either DC Metro Police or their own superiors.

Laws are worth zero if the law enforcers ignore them with impunity - a lesson familiar from Caribbean and African banana republics.

>>Magnum+O1
> Laws are worth zero if the law enforcers ignore them with impunity - a lesson familiar from Caribbean and African banana republics.

I think it's a lesson America is currently learning...

>>Magnum+O1
President Andrew Jackson famously shrugged off the US Supreme Court decision in Worcester v. Georgia by (probably not) saying "John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!". Like you said, "Laws are worth zero if the law enforcers ignore them with impunity". This is why we need a system to police the police. At some point, we as a society need to commit to forcing those who swear to uphold the laws to also live by them.

>>mike_d+(OP)
https://twitter.com/Susan_Hennessey/ has been looking into this quite a bit, some here: https://twitter.com/Susan_Hennessey/status/12682415415476592...

Basically it sounds like her understanding is that they are only required to present ID when they take a police action? But I don't understand why blocking a street would not be a police action.

DC Metro attempting to arrest Bureau of Prisons employees when they fail to identify sounds like a complete mess.

>>random+dg
Well, there's no way to know that's who/what they are if they don't provide i.d. If they're carrying weapons and won't show their license to carry said weapons, sounds to me that should be enough to arrest them, if anything could just claim their protesters and tear gas them till they vacate.

>>Magnum+O1
Hopefully this results in successful civil lawsuits against these individuals on the basis that qualified immunity does not extend to these individuals because they didn't follow ID laws.

It might not be the justice people want, but taking away people's money is the most effective means of instituting change in the USA. It's entirely the reason that company's try to eliminate our right to sue them.

>>gremli+Rk
I think it's less of a mess legally and more of a mess practically. It seems very unlikely that these people are going to comply with DC Metro police.