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1. romanr+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-05 12:09:05
Telegram indeed have better UX and same level of e2e security. Why Signal is getting all the publicity?
replies(2): >>nix23+l2 >>detaro+Q2
2. nix23+l2[view] [source] 2020-06-05 12:27:28
>>romanr+(OP)
Telegram is not opensource, Signal is...and yes you can setup your own server with Signal. Why trust a Closed-source-Software? Do you even know that it is encrypted?
replies(2): >>fsflov+Mw >>sorenj+pZ
3. detaro+Q2[view] [source] 2020-06-05 12:31:00
>>romanr+(OP)
Telegram has off-by-default E2E encryption with a less vetted algorithm that only works for 1:1 chats, and less focus on minimizing server knowledge. That's clearly not

> same level of e2e security

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4. prophe+kw[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-05 15:21:59
>>detaro+Q2
And both users need to be online at the same time for the E2E-encrypted chat. Very limiting.
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5. fsflov+Mw[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-05 15:24:35
>>nix23+l2
You can setup your own server with Signal, but you will not participate in the same network, so this is not really relevant.
replies(1): >>nix23+161
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6. sorenj+pZ[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-05 17:39:16
>>nix23+l2
https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram

https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop

replies(1): >>nix23+P61
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7. nix23+161[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-05 18:09:21
>>fsflov+Mw
For Country's or big-business it is relevant
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8. nix23+P61[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-05 18:12:27
>>sorenj+pZ
THAT is not the server, its like saying Firefox is opensource so Facebook is too, thanks and no thanks for the link's.
replies(1): >>sorenj+KB1
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9. sorenj+KB1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-05 20:44:10
>>nix23+P61
The encryption takes place in the client though, which you can verify by looking at the client source code. I find your comparison with Facebook a bit lacking, a better one would have been by looking at the Firefox code to verify if https traffic is encrypted.
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