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1. pjc50+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-04 13:16:40
Having invaded, destabilised, and collapsed most of South America and other parts of the world, all that is left is for America to destabilise itself. Of course the CIA know what this looks like.
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2. jialut+ol[view] [source] 2020-06-04 14:59:43
>>pjc50+(OP)
Let's also not forget if this was in any other country, the US would be sanctioning them already, making a bad situation even worse! I am personally very glad to see this potentially being the end of the US hegemony.
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3. ofcroo+1C[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-04 16:16:42
>>jialut+ol
The issue of "What comes after US hegemony?" should trouble you even more.

I can envision a lot of scenarios that are worse than now.

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4. thatgu+pG[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-04 16:38:07
>>ofcroo+1C
Time to start learning Chinese?
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5. quantu+qG[view] [source] 2020-06-04 16:38:08
>>pjc50+(OP)
> Having invaded, destabilised, and collapsed most of South America and other parts of the world, all that is left is for America to destabilise itself

Looking back at history, it's not surprising. Every big empire goes down the same way, by destabilizing and tearing itself up.

The Roman Empire, the Mongol Empire, the Byzantines, the Ottamans, everyone went down the same route. Now of-course with the nukes in question the USA might not just break itself up into pieces, but it definitely might exist only as a shadow of itself.

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6. bobmcb+dH[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-04 16:42:18
>>jialut+ol
What utter nonsense.
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7. bobmcb+qH[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-04 16:43:47
>>thatgu+pG
How do you say 'how do I keep my internal organs AND my religion' in mandarin?
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8. crafti+HL[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-04 17:06:58
>>ofcroo+1C
Power vacuums are a very dangerous thing. This is how ISIS/ISIL came to power after all...
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9. jialut+LN[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-04 17:19:21
>>bobmcb+dH
Which part? The sanctions part or the hegemon part? Here is a list of US sanctions:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_sanctions

I love this part specifically: "Reasons cited for sanctions includes Venezuela's poor human rights record", pretty much for all of them.

And then let's look at US's involvements in Latin America:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r...

Funnily enough, the CIA overthrew Iran's democratically elected government in 1953, only to sanction them when they are not willing to be US's pawns anymore.

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/31/690363402/how-the-cia-overthr...

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10. 082349+CO[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-04 17:24:11
>>quantu+qG
How did the USSR do it? Was the deal that whoever took on the debt would keep the nukes?
replies(2): >>pjc50+dP >>quantu+zS
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11. jialut+OO[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-04 17:25:30
>>ofcroo+1C
What troubles me more is the idea that you think there needs or has to be some sort of hegemony in the first place. I personally know of scenarios that is already far worse in the world today because of this idea of someone having to uphold some sort of hegemony.
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12. pjc50+dP[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-04 17:27:22
>>082349+CO
The international community persuaded Ukraine to give up their nukes in return for a guarantee of safety. Which turned out to be worthless.
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13. quantu+zS[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-04 17:45:32
>>082349+CO
Essentially, yes. Russia got all the nukes[1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisbon_Protocol

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