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1. rayine+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-04 03:34:57
Punishing the taxpayers is fine. At the end of the day, they’re the ones who elect the officials who hire the police chiefs.
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2. Aperoc+g1[view] [source] 2020-06-04 03:48:21
>>rayine+(OP)
This is one of the unspoken truth of democracy.

Democracy reflect the people, if the people sucks, the democracy will also suck. This is a feature not a bug.

3. zargon+73[view] [source] 2020-06-04 04:10:04
>>rayine+(OP)
I agree it's fine, and needs to happen. Let's not pretend that it enforces any accountability on the officers involved in this suit. (Which is what the quote says. As interpret it, anyway.) It's just a tiny part of what needs to happen.
4. rainco+Ng[view] [source] 2020-06-04 06:11:09
>>rayine+(OP)
In today's interview with Times, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey said he doesn't have power to change police union contracts. So, something rotten out there. Best option for Minneapolis is to disband the police force just like Camden, NJ did. For more, check https://www.startribune.com/here-s-why-cops-can-t-be-held-ac...
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5. MertsA+Nr[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-04 07:47:10
>>rainco+Ng
>Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey said he doesn't have power to change police union contracts.

At this point screw the fallout from the police union. Rip it up and renegotiate if the existing contractual obligations are too restricting. Realistically whatever recourse the union might have for breach of contract would be worth it. The most damaging action they could take would be to strike, and if they did public support would be against the police at this point and that would be a boon to appeasing the protesters. Heck, make it a PR stunt and start a campaign to get protesters to enroll in the police academy and fix the injustices they're marching for.

Either the PD gets replaced wholesale and the union can pound sand and the protesters are appeased or the union comes back to the table to come up with a reasonable deal that lets the municipality make some real changes to appease the protesters. Regardless of how they proceed serious accountability is crucial.

6. ryandr+kb2[view] [source] 2020-06-04 19:07:36
>>rayine+(OP)
Good overall point, but I'd like to point out that not all taxpayers are voters, and not all voters are [significant] taxpayers. So a moderately different group of people are punished than the group that has the power to change things.
7. selimt+0l2[view] [source] 2020-06-04 20:03:16
>>rayine+(OP)
Speaking of elected officials...

https://theappeal.org/ice-friendly-policies-a-string-of-jail...

“Sheriff candidates must have either an advanced certificate from the state’s Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training, or a certain combination of education and law enforcement experience. The law, enacted in 1988, was devised by a subcommittee of the California State Sheriffs’ Association. Before then, the only requirement was that a candidate be registered to vote in the county.”

Where were Deukmejian and Wilson when this was passed?

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