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1. chrisc+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-03 23:27:40
Agreed drug war is a total failure, policy-wise. Where is the middle ground between criminalizing everything and legalizing everything? Real lives are destroyed by drug abuse and particularly with regards to meth, fentanyl, etc it kills people. I can't imagine a world where we sell these things over the counter. Would that help or hurt communities?
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2. creagh+G[view] [source] 2020-06-03 23:31:46
>>chrisc+(OP)
Maybe there’s a legal path to meth but you can literally die from touching a small dose of fentanyl if you haven’t built a tolerance. Very dangerous for that to exist in a legal setting.
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3. katbyt+M1[view] [source] 2020-06-03 23:37:50
>>chrisc+(OP)
so the reason meth and fent are a thing is because speed and heroin are harder to smuggler and/or make.

MDMA is far safer and fun then MDA MDE PMA PMMA but you get the latter sold as it because no one wants anything but MDMA. Same with all sorts of synthetic RCs and drugs.

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4. barry-+F8[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-04 00:21:34
>>creagh+G
Making things illegal leads inexorably to more of the hard stuff. If you can buy it at the corner store you’ll go for weak, comparatively safe substances, opium/morphine or beer. If you’ve got to smuggle it because it’s illegal you go for harder stuff with a greater intoxication for weight ratio like fentanyl or before heroin or hard spirits. Most people don’t drink spirits straight, they drink beer or wine or mixed drinks.
5. virmun+Fa[view] [source] 2020-06-04 00:39:41
>>chrisc+(OP)
Why make the act of consumption illegal? If I am a functioning alcoholic, and I stay at home and work, no reason to arrest me. Same is true with weed and all the other drugs. If I become a danger while intoxicated, arrest me for that. I don’t need a charge multiplier.
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6. colejo+Kh[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-04 01:42:32
>>virmun+Fa
Technically, (in most places I’ve read about (in the US)) it’s not illegal to have it in your system. It’s illegal to be in possession of it. Presumably so people who OD actually go to the hospital.
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7. anacca+1i[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-04 01:46:18
>>creagh+G
You may not be aware but methamphetamine is schedule 2 and is prescribed for a number of purposes the brand name is desoxyn. Meth is not inherently dangerous to use when it's production is regulated. Also, you can NOT die from touching fentanyl that is a myth there are many videos online of people handling fentanyl with their bare hands.
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