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I hear the French did that once with great success. Took a while though.

>>TehCor+(OP)
And cost a lot of heads.

>>TehCor+(OP)
I hear it was rough on headcount.

>>TehCor+(OP)
Violent revolutions aren’t great when the ruling system is a democracy. By definition it’s going against the will of “the people”

>>kgin+V5
With gerrymandering, the non-proportional Senate, and the Electoral College system, it might be a stretch to call the US federal government a democracy. Something like it, but not exactly.

>>TehCor+(OP)
Great success my ass, we got an Emperor, 3 kings and another emperor after that.

We only got the right to vote for men in a republic after we patriotically enlisted in 1875 to fight Prussia, and women when they patriotically replaced men in factories during WWII. Notice a pattern ? Like it would be handled like a carrot to a population so exhausted the only thing they vote for is the people already at the top ?

People who bullshit that beheading privilege-born people leads to great success is a lunatic and will be beheaded like Robespierre eventually. Even the second revolution in 1848 lead to the election of ... Napoleon III as president, before he created the "second empire"... Another violent fiasco.

Not saying it should be that way, but tired of hearing the french revolution disaster quoted as a miracle of democracy by all pseudo-anarchists to justify their blind violence. It's not taught that way to children in France. We call part of it the Terror...

>>TehCor+(OP)
Once? About eight times. Five republics, plus some empires and a monarchy or two.

>>xwolfi+Pb
It was an all consuming revolution, sure (just about everyone that started it ended up dead, and poetically by the very revolutionaries they instigated). I don’t think the Revolution was too interested in individual rights, but more so on the class disparity.

It’s hard to judge because most nations as we know them were built on blood, however unjust. One is rarely handed a country, or in many cases, handed back a country.

>>projek+R7
I would be down for a revolution against gerrymandering.

>>xwolfi+Pb
The American Revolution produced first a weak Continental Congress under the Articles of Confederation, then changed their government in 1787 and the new constitution and... well, the most substantive change to that government was the 12th amendment that changed the electoral college procedures.

Compare this to France, which went like this (not counting the smaller regimes):

* Absolute monarchy (ancien regime)

* Constitutional monarchy (until Louis XVII flees)

* First Republic

* First Empire (Napoleon seizes power)

* Constitutional monarchy

* Constitutional monarchy #2 (July Monarchy)

* Second Republic

* Second Empire (different Napoleon seizes power)

* Third Republic (only because the monarchists couldn't decide on which branch to restore, and agreed to a republic until one of the contenders died... who took an awfully long time to do so)

* Vichy France (after the Fall of France)

* Free French government-in-exile

* Fourth Republic

* Fifth Republic (the one we're on today)

Quite a stark contrast.